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[INDISTINCT CHATTER]

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>> CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

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>> THE BROADCAST

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IS NOW STARTING.

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>> KINDLY STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.

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>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE

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TO THE FLAG

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OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

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AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR

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WHICH IT STANDS,

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ONE NATION, UNDER GOD,

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INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY

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AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

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>> YOU CAN ALL BE SEATED.

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WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON. UM.

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ROLL CALL?

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>> ALL RIGHT,

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COMMISSIONER FOWLER?

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>> HERE MA'AM.

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>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

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>> PRESENT.

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COMMISSIONER LEET?

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>> YES MA'AM.

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MAYOR MARTIN?

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>> HERE MA'AM.

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>> COUNCILWOMAN MORGAN?

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>> YES MA'AM.

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>> CHAIRWOMAN ARONSON?

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>> PRESENT.

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>> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A QUORUM.

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SO, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

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IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD

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LIKE TO SPEAK

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PUBLICLY ON ANYTHING

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ON THE AGENDA?

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ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE.

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COMMENTS FROM ADVISORY

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COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

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TAC, CAC, AND BPAC.

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WHAT DO WE GOT?

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A LOT OF LETTERS.

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PETER, NO ONE?

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NOBODY HAS ANYTHING TO? OKAY.

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>> IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL

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[INAUDIBLE] MEETING.

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>> ALL RIGHT, WELL THEN

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WE'LL MOVE ON

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TO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

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>> MOVE APPROVAL.

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>> SECOND.

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>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

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>> AYE.

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>> ANY OPPOSED?

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IT IS APPROVED.

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EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK

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OVER THE MINUTES FROM

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OUR LAST MEETING.

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>> MOVE APPROVAL?

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>> MOVE APPROVAL.

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>> SECOND.

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>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

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>> AYE.

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>> ANY OPPOSED?

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ALL RIGHT, CONSENT AGENDA.

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SAME THING.

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>> MOVE APPROVAL.

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>> SECOND.

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>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

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>> AYE.

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>> ANY OPPOSED?

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ALL RIGHT, WE ARE DONE

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WITH CONSENT AGENDA.

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MOVING ON TO ACTION ITEMS.

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VEHICLE SHARING STUDY.

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>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN

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AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

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GOOD AFTERNOON.

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MARCIA LATHOU,

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THE TPO'S TRANSIT PROGRAM

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MANAGER

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WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM,

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THERE SHE IS.

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>> THANK YOU, PETER.

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MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS

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OF THE BOARD.

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CAR SHARE IS ULTRA SHORT-TERM

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THINK RENT BY THE HOUR.

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IT IS CONTACTLESS,

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SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO

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TO A RENTAL AGENCY.

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YOU USE YOUR CELL PHONE

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TO LOCATE THE CARS,

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AND YOU USE A CELL PHONE

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TO UNLOCK THE CAR.

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THEN YOU DRIVE THE CAR

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AND RETURN IT TO THE SAME

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LOCATION.

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A MEMBERSHIP IS REQUIRED,

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SO IT'S LIKE BIKE SHARE

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FOR CARS.

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[RUSTLES]

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>> SO FOR PEOPLE WHO

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DON'T OWN CARS,

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THEY USE A MIX OF WAYS

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TO GET AROUND,

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AND FOUR OF THOSE WAYS

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ARE SHOWN IN THE CHART THERE.

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UBER HOURLY, ZIPCAR REPRESENTS

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CAR SHARE,

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TRADITIONAL CAR RENTAL

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LIKE HERTZ,

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AND THEN ART ON DEMAND,

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WHICH IS THE COUNTY'S

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PUBLIC UBER.

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AND I'VE HIGHLIGHTED SOME

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OF THE STANDOUTS

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IN THOSE CATEGORIES,

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BUT WHERE CAR SHARE

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REALLY STANDS OUT.

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SO THIS CHART,

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TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE,

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YOU ONLY NEED A CAR

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FOR TWO HOURS.

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WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

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SO CAR SHARE STANDS OUT

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BECAUSE IT'S RELATIVELY

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AND IT'S FLEXIBLE,

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AND IT'S 24-7,

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AND YOU CAN MAKE MULTIPLE STOPS.

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THE COST OF CAR SHARE OWNERSHIP

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IS QUITE HIGH.

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THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF

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AVERAGE U.S. HOUSEHOLD SPENDS

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ABOUT $13,000 A YEAR

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ON TRANSPORTATION COSTS,

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AND THAT'S SECOND ONLY

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TO HOUSING.

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SO IF WE CAN HAVE ONE LESS CAR

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IN OUR HOUSEHOLD,

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THEN THAT'S MORE THAN CAN BE

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SPENT ON HOUSING.

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THE AREA WITH THE GREATEST NEED

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IS EAST OF US-1 AND IMMEDIATELY

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WEST OF US-1.

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AS THE MAP OF THE TRANSIT SYSTEM

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SHOWS,

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YOU HAVE THE MICROTRANSIT ZONES,

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WHICH ARE VERY POPULAR,

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AND YOU HAVE

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THE FIXED-ROUTE BUS,

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BUT THERE'S NOTHING EAST OF US-1

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AND IMMEDIATELY WEST.

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THAT AREA ALSO HAS EXISTING

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AND FUTURE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.

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THE GOOGLE MAP THERE SHOWS SOME

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OF THE CONDOS AND TOWNHOUSES

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AND APARTMENTS.

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AND, OF COURSE,

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AND ONE DEVELOPMENT ALSO.

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DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE

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AN EXISTING

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TRANSPORTATION HUB.

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YOU'VE GOT MICRO TRANSIT

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AND FIXED-ROUTE BUS ROUTES

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AS WELL AS FREEBIE.

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AND YOU ALSO HAVE

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A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER

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OF HOUSEHOLDS WITH

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IT'S ALREADY AN EXISTING

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REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION HUB.

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IT HAS THAT HOUSING DENSITY.

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AND THE CLOSEST CAR RENTAL

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AGENCIES

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WOULD BE ST. LUCIE WEST AND US1.

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SO TPO STAFF HAS HAD

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MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS

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WHICH IS THE LEADING

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CAR SHARE COMPANY,

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AND ALSO WITH

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ENTERPRISE MOBILITY,

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WHICH IS A SUBSIDIARY OF

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ENTERPRISE RENTAL CAR.

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AND SO THEY HAVE GIVEN US

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INFORMATION ABOUT

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WHAT THE CAR SHARE BUSINESS

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MODEL WOULD BE.

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THE CAR SHARE COMPANY

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WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE

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FOR THE PLACEMENT, REPAIR,

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AND OPERATIONS.

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BUT THERE WOULD NEED

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TO BE A HOST AGENCY.

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SO ALL OF US ARE FAMILIAR

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WITH THE BIKE SHARE

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AND THE SCOOTER SHARE

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THAT WE USED TO HAVE,

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AND I BELIEVE THOSE COMPANIES

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WERE JUST RELYING SOLELY

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ON THE MEMBER USAGE.

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BUT WITH THIS BUSINESS MODEL,

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WHICH IS KNOWN IN THE INDUSTRY

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AS THE UNIVERSITY MODEL,

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BECAUSE A LOT OF COLLEGES

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AND UNIVERSITIES USE THIS,

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THE COLLEGE OR THE UNIVERSITY

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IS CALLED THE HOST AGENCY.

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AND THEY HAVE A MONTHLY

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MINIMUM GUARANTEE

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THAT THEY PROVIDE TO THE CAR

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SHARE COMPANY,

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AND THIS IS OFFSET BY MEMBER

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USAGE FEES.

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SO THEORETICALLY,

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YOU COULD GET TO THE POINT WHERE

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THE HOST AGENCY

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WOULD HAVE ZERO FISCAL IMPACT.

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THE MEMBERS THEN PAY

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AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE

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AS WELL AS THE USAGE FEES.

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THE CAR SHARE COSTS,

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SO WE TALKED TO ZIPCAR

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AND ENTERPRISE MOBILITY ABOUT,

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YOU KNOW, TWO CARS IN

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PORT ST. LUCIE

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AND TWO IN PORT PIERCE.

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HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST?

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IT COSTS ABOUT $75,000

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ANNUAL TOTAL,

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SO ABOUT $18,000 PER CAR.

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MEMBERSHIP RANGES FROM ABOUT

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$50 TO $100 A YEAR,

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DEPENDING ON THE PLAN.

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THE USAGE OF THE CARS IS ABOUT

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$15 AN HOUR,

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AND OF COURSE THIS DEPENDS

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ON WHETHER THE HOST AGENCY

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CHOOSES TO SUBSIDIZE

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THESE COSTS OR NOT.

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SO, TRANSPORTATION DEMAND

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MANAGEMENT

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IS A STRATEGY TO HELP REDUCE

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TRAFFIC CONGESTION

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AND TO ASSURE THE MORE

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EFFICIENT USE OF

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THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM,

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AND CAR SHARE IS A TDM STRATEGY.

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NOW, FUNDING OPTIONS FOR

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THE HOST AGENCY,

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IT COULD BE A NONPROFIT

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ORGANIZATION

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LIKE UNITED WAY,

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A CORPORATION LIKE

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A HEALTHCARE NETWORK,

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THE TPO'S CONGESTION

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MANAGEMENT PROCESS.

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IT COULD BE A PART

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OF LOCAL MOBILITY

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AND IMPACT FEE PLANS,

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AND WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE

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DISCUSSIONS

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WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT

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OF TRANSPORTATION

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REGARDING FUNDING THAT

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WOULD BE ADMINISTERED

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BY THEIR SOUTH FLORIDA

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COMMUNITY SERVICES.

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THE TPO CAN ASSIST.

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ONCE A HOST AGENCY

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IS IDENTIFIED,

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WE CAN HELP TO DEVELOP

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PERFORMANCE MEASURES

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AND ENSURE COMMUNITY AWARENESS,

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BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT

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FOR ANY PROGRAM,

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SUPPORT TRANSIT CONNECTIVITY,

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BECAUSE THOSE TWO HAVE

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TO WORK TOGETHER,

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AND WE CAN HELP FACILITATE

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THE INCLUSION

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INTO THE MOBILITY AND IMPACT FEE

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PLANS,

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AND WE WILL CONTINUE

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TO ENCOURAGE FUNDING

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BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT

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OF TRANSPORTATION.

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SO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES

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DURING THEIR MEETINGS IN JULY

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RECOMMENDED ACCEPTANCE

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OF THE VEHICLE SHARING STUDY,

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AND THAT IS STAFF'S

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RECOMMENDATION, TOO.

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AND THAT CONCLUDES

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MY PRESENTATION,

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AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER

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ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

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>> THANK YOU, MARCIA.

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ANY QUESTIONS FROM

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THE BOARD DISCUSSION?

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GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR.

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YES, GO AHEAD.

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YOU WERE GOING TO GO FIRST.

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>> WHERE DOES THE FUNDING

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COME FROM,

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THE ANNUAL FUNDING FOR ZIPCAR

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OR THE OTHERS?

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>> THE FUNDING WOULD COME

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FROM THE HOST AGENCY.

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FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT WAS

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UNITED WAY,

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THEY WOULD PROVIDE THE FUNDING.

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IF IT WERE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT

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OF TRANSPORTATION,

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THEN THEY HAVE THEIR

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SOUTH FLORIDA COMMUNITY

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SERVICES PROGRAM.

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THE PURPOSE OF THAT PROGRAM

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IS THE MORE EFFICIENT USE

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OF THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM

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AND ALSO TRAFFIC CONGESTION

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REDUCTION.

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AND SO CAR SHARING DOES FIT

338
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THOSE OBJECTIVES.

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>> VICE MAYOR KARA BAUER?

340
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>> YES, I HAVE TWO THINGS.

341
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ONE IS I HAVE SEEN ZIPCAR,

342
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OBVIOUSLY, IN ACTION

343
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IN YOUR METROPOLITAN CITIES

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SPECIFICALLY.

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HOW WOULD WE ADDRESS THE CONCERN

346
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THAT WHEN I'VE SEEN THEM, LIKE,

347
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BASICALLY THE CAR IS PARKED

348
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SOMEWHERE,

349
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YOU, LIKE, TAP YOUR PHONE,

350
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OR YOU TAP SOMETHING,

351
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AND THE CAR OPENS,

352
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AND THEN YOU CAN DRIVE IT.

353
00:11:12,038 --> 00:11:13,072
>> WELL, IT WORKS

354
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WHEN YOU'RE IN ONE

355
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OF THOSE CITIES BECAUSE

356
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YOU HAVE THE SUBWAY

357
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TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS

358
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THE VEHICLE.

359
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IF THIS IS PARKED AND YOU DON'T

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HAVE A CAR,

361
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AND IT'S PARKED SOMEWHERE

362
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THROUGHOUT THE REGION,

363
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HOW WOULD THEY GET TO THEIR CAR

364
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TO BE ABLE TO BORROW

365
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ANOTHER CAR?

366
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>> UBER... [INAUDIBLE]

367
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>> THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST SAYING.

368
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[STUTTERING]

369
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...OR GET A RIDE.

370
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OR GET A FRIEND, DROP YOU OFF,

371
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WHATEVER, YEAH.

372
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>> A BIKE, CAR.

373
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>> BECAUSE I THINK

374
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THE UBER CONCEPT,

375
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AND THE SECOND PART OF THIS IS,

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ALTAMONT SPRINGS SPECIFICALLY

377
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HAS A RIDE SHARE PROGRAM

378
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THAT THEY SUBSIDIZE,

379
00:11:44,037 --> 00:11:45,138
BUT IT'S SPECIFICALLY

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FOR THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

381
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DISTRICT

382
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IN THEIR DOWNTOWN AREA.

383
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SO IF SOMEONE'S GOING

384
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TO TRAVEL TO THAT AREA,

385
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THEY HAVE A SUBSIDY FOR IT,

386
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AND...

387
00:11:54,881 --> 00:11:56,249
BUT IT'S SPECIFIC TO JUST

388
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THAT AREA.

389
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THAT MAKES SENSE.

390
00:11:58,251 --> 00:12:00,053
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT,

391
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AS YOU GUYS GO THROUGH

392
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THE STUDY,

393
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I'LL SUPPORT THE STUDY,

394
00:12:02,155 --> 00:12:03,990
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE

395
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THAT WE PUT THE RIGHT PROGRAM

396
00:12:05,725 --> 00:12:07,493
IN FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

397
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THAT'S ALL.

398
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>> WELL, AND WHAT WE HAVE

399
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AS TPO STAFF HAS SUGGESTED

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CERTAIN AREAS,

401
00:12:17,337 --> 00:12:19,339
BUT WHAT THE COMPANIES

402
00:12:19,339 --> 00:12:21,374
HAVE TOLD US IS

403
00:12:21,374 --> 00:12:23,776
THAT THEY WOULD BE THE ONES

404
00:12:23,776 --> 00:12:25,945
WHO WOULD DECIDE WHERE

405
00:12:25,945 --> 00:12:28,147
THE VEHICLES WOULD BE,

406
00:12:28,147 --> 00:12:31,751
BASED ON THEIR PRIOR KNOWLEDGE

407
00:12:31,751 --> 00:12:33,620
OF WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T.

408
00:12:33,620 --> 00:12:36,155
>> SO WHOSE PARKING WOULD

409
00:12:36,155 --> 00:12:37,190
THEY UTILIZE?

410
00:12:37,190 --> 00:12:38,191
>> WHAT WAS THAT?

411
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>> WHOSE PARKING WOULD

412
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THEY UTILIZE?

413
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>> THAT WOULD BE UP TO... NOW,

414
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[THUD]

415
00:12:45,632 --> 00:12:48,101
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT

416
00:12:48,101 --> 00:12:49,335
AMONG OURSELVES.

417
00:12:49,335 --> 00:12:52,138
ONE COULD BE THE CITY OF

418
00:12:52,138 --> 00:12:53,539
FORT PIERCE GARAGE.

419
00:12:53,539 --> 00:12:56,976
ANOTHER COULD BE THE GATLIN JOBS

420
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EXPRESS PARK AND RIDE.

421
00:12:58,544 --> 00:12:59,646
>> YEAH, PUBLIC PARKING.

422
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>> AND, AGAIN,

423
00:13:02,081 --> 00:13:03,182
IT WOULD DEPEND

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00:13:03,182 --> 00:13:04,684
ON THE HOST AGENCY,

425
00:13:04,684 --> 00:13:07,520
BECAUSE IF IT WERE IRSC,

426
00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,688
FOR EXAMPLE,

427
00:13:08,688 --> 00:13:11,457
THE CARS WOULD BE PARKED

428
00:13:11,457 --> 00:13:13,693
AT THE IRSC CAMPUS.

429
00:13:13,693 --> 00:13:14,894
>> YEAH, I'M JUST INTERESTED

430
00:13:14,894 --> 00:13:15,895
IN THE BUSINESS MODEL.

431
00:13:15,895 --> 00:13:16,462
BECAUSE IT'S LIKE I SEE IT AS,

432
00:13:16,462 --> 00:13:16,796
LIKE, IF THEY'RE GOING

433
00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:17,964
TO BE UTILIZING,

434
00:13:17,964 --> 00:13:19,666
LET'S SAY, FORT PIERCE GARAGE,

435
00:13:19,666 --> 00:13:21,567
ON THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE,

436
00:13:21,567 --> 00:13:23,069
THAT COMPANY'S GOING TO BENEFIT

437
00:13:23,069 --> 00:13:25,538
AND PROFIT OFF OF WHATEVER,

438
00:13:25,538 --> 00:13:26,139
WHETHER THEY'RE RECEIVING

439
00:13:26,139 --> 00:13:26,773
A SUBSIDY OR

440
00:13:26,773 --> 00:13:28,875
THE USER IS UTILIZING IT.

441
00:13:28,875 --> 00:13:29,642
I WOULD ASSUME THAT

442
00:13:29,642 --> 00:13:30,443
THE CITY SHOULD RECEIVE

443
00:13:30,443 --> 00:13:31,978
SOME FORM OF, YOU KNOW,

444
00:13:31,978 --> 00:13:33,613
COMPENSATION BACK FOR

445
00:13:33,613 --> 00:13:34,714
THAT UTILIZATION

446
00:13:34,714 --> 00:13:35,581
OF THAT PARKING SPACE.

447
00:13:35,581 --> 00:13:36,716
BUT, AGAIN, AS YOU SEE,

448
00:13:36,716 --> 00:13:38,251
I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

449
00:13:38,251 --> 00:13:39,052
>> MM-HMM.

450
00:13:39,052 --> 00:13:40,253
>> IT'S NOT THAT I'M ANTI,

451
00:13:40,253 --> 00:13:41,454
BUT I DO WANT TO UNDERSTAND

452
00:13:41,454 --> 00:13:42,055
THE BUSINESS MODEL

453
00:13:42,055 --> 00:13:43,056
AND HOW IT WOULD ACTUALLY

454
00:13:43,056 --> 00:13:43,856
APPLY IN OUR AREA.

455
00:13:43,856 --> 00:13:44,624
>> MM-HMM.

456
00:13:44,624 --> 00:13:45,892
TO VICE MAYOR KARA BAUER'S

457
00:13:45,892 --> 00:13:46,693
POINT, I MEAN,

458
00:13:46,693 --> 00:13:47,627
I THINK THERE ARE A LOT

459
00:13:47,627 --> 00:13:47,960
OF QUESTIONS

460
00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,162
THAT STILL NEED TO BE ASKED.

461
00:13:49,162 --> 00:13:50,530
THIS IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION

462
00:13:50,530 --> 00:13:51,564
TO ACCEPT THE STUDY.

463
00:13:51,564 --> 00:13:52,999
BUT TO PUT IT INTO PRACTICE,

464
00:13:52,999 --> 00:13:54,233
I THINK THERE'S A LOT

465
00:13:54,233 --> 00:13:54,734
MORE QUESTIONS.

466
00:13:54,734 --> 00:13:56,169
BUT WE HAVE TO FIND

467
00:13:56,169 --> 00:13:56,769
AN INTERESTED,

468
00:13:56,769 --> 00:13:58,071
YOU KNOW, HOST AGENCY.

469
00:13:58,071 --> 00:13:59,772
DO WE HAVE SOME

470
00:13:59,772 --> 00:14:00,640
COMPARABLE CITIES

471
00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,608
THAT IT HAS BEEN PILOTED

472
00:14:02,608 --> 00:14:04,644
IN THAT WE CAN GLEAN

473
00:14:04,644 --> 00:14:05,912
ANY INFORMATION FROM?

474
00:14:05,912 --> 00:14:07,780
>> WELL, ZIPCAR ITSELF HAS BEEN

475
00:14:07,780 --> 00:14:08,414
AROUND FOR

476
00:14:08,414 --> 00:14:11,451
MORE THAN 25 YEARS.

477
00:14:11,451 --> 00:14:12,251
>> IN LARGER...

478
00:14:12,251 --> 00:14:13,619
>> AND IN THE STUDY,

479
00:14:13,619 --> 00:14:15,588
THERE IS A LIST

480
00:14:15,588 --> 00:14:17,090
OF FLORIDA CITIES

481
00:14:17,090 --> 00:14:21,761
THAT HAVE ZIPCAR PROGRAMS.

482
00:14:21,761 --> 00:14:23,362
AND DID WE GET ANY FEEDBACK

483
00:14:23,362 --> 00:14:24,163
ON THOSE PROGRAMS

484
00:14:24,163 --> 00:14:25,998
IN THIS... IN THE FLORIDA

485
00:14:25,998 --> 00:14:26,399
CITIES?

486
00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:28,167
>> WELL, WHAT WE DID,

487
00:14:28,167 --> 00:14:30,636
EVEN BEFORE WE STARTED

488
00:14:30,636 --> 00:14:31,871
THE STUDY,

489
00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:33,840
IF WE HAD TALKED WITH

490
00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:34,640
THE REPRESENTATIVES

491
00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,944
FROM ZIPCAR OR FROM ENTERPRISE

492
00:14:37,944 --> 00:14:38,611
MOBILITY,

493
00:14:38,611 --> 00:14:40,279
WHICH WE HAVE ON SEVERAL

494
00:14:40,279 --> 00:14:40,613
OCCASIONS,

495
00:14:40,613 --> 00:14:42,415
AND IF THEY HAD TOLD US,

496
00:14:42,415 --> 00:14:43,783
WELL, WE'VE LOOKED

497
00:14:43,783 --> 00:14:45,184
AT YOUR GEOGRAPHY,

498
00:14:45,184 --> 00:14:46,586
WE'VE LOOKED AT YOUR

499
00:14:46,586 --> 00:14:48,020
DEMOGRAPHICS AND SO FORTH,

500
00:14:48,020 --> 00:14:49,589
WE DON'T THINK IT WOULD WORK,

501
00:14:49,589 --> 00:14:54,994
THEN WE WOULD NEVER HAVE...

502
00:14:54,994 --> 00:14:56,396
NEVER HAVE GONE THROUGH

503
00:14:56,396 --> 00:14:57,463
WITH THIS STUDY.

504
00:14:57,463 --> 00:14:59,065
THE STUDY WAS IN

505
00:14:59,065 --> 00:15:00,299
THE UNIFIED PLANNING

506
00:15:00,299 --> 00:15:05,405
WORK PROGRAM.

507
00:15:05,405 --> 00:15:06,939
>> SO WE ALREADY AGREED,

508
00:15:06,939 --> 00:15:07,273
OBVIOUSLY,

509
00:15:07,273 --> 00:15:08,141
TO DO THE STUDY.

510
00:15:08,141 --> 00:15:08,941
THEY'VE DONE THE STUDY.

511
00:15:08,941 --> 00:15:10,009
THIS IS THE STUDY.

512
00:15:10,009 --> 00:15:10,943
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE

513
00:15:10,943 --> 00:15:13,813
IS AN ACCEPTANCE OF THE STUDY.

514
00:15:13,813 --> 00:15:14,614
>> I DON'T MIND THE MOTION.

515
00:15:14,614 --> 00:15:15,848
>> COMMISSIONER CLASBY?

516
00:15:15,848 --> 00:15:17,116
>> I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE

517
00:15:17,116 --> 00:15:18,551
TO GO THROUGH THE STUDY,

518
00:15:18,551 --> 00:15:19,418
I GUESS I JUST HAD TO ASK YOU

519
00:15:19,418 --> 00:15:19,652
A QUESTION.

520
00:15:19,652 --> 00:15:21,487
I MEAN, THE SCOPE OF THE STUDY,

521
00:15:21,487 --> 00:15:23,389
DOES IT COVER QUESTIONS LIKE,

522
00:15:23,389 --> 00:15:24,190
YOU KNOW,

523
00:15:24,190 --> 00:15:25,358
WHERE THINGS ARE PARKED,

524
00:15:25,358 --> 00:15:26,659
I MEAN, THAT SORT OF THING,

525
00:15:26,659 --> 00:15:28,494
OR THE IDEAL ZONES WHERE,

526
00:15:28,494 --> 00:15:29,228
YOU KNOW,

527
00:15:29,228 --> 00:15:30,129
CARS CAN BE LEFT?

528
00:15:30,129 --> 00:15:31,264
BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD QUESTION

529
00:15:31,264 --> 00:15:33,566
BECAUSE SOMEONE CAN CORRECT ME

530
00:15:33,566 --> 00:15:34,500
IF I'M WRONG HERE DEFINITELY,

531
00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:35,301
BECAUSE SOMEONE KNOWS.

532
00:15:35,301 --> 00:15:37,436
BUT I SEEM TO REMEMBER A NUMBER,

533
00:15:37,436 --> 00:15:39,572
LIKE $50,000 PER YEAR IS WHAT

534
00:15:39,572 --> 00:15:40,306
YOUR TYPICAL

535
00:15:40,306 --> 00:15:41,474
ECONOMIC IMPACT IS OF

536
00:15:41,474 --> 00:15:42,375
A PARKING SPACE

537
00:15:42,375 --> 00:15:44,277
IN A DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT.

538
00:15:44,277 --> 00:15:45,978
SO IF WE HAVE FIVE

539
00:15:45,978 --> 00:15:47,980
OF THOSE SPOTS TAKEN UP BY THIS,

540
00:15:47,980 --> 00:15:49,682
I MEAN, TECHNICALLY, THAT'S...

541
00:15:49,682 --> 00:15:51,751
WE'RE LOSING ECONOMIC

542
00:15:51,751 --> 00:15:53,152
IMPACT POTENTIALLY?

543
00:15:53,152 --> 00:15:54,654
>> WELL, LIKE I SAID,

544
00:15:54,654 --> 00:15:56,989
IT DEPENDS ON THE HOST AGENCY.

545
00:15:56,989 --> 00:15:59,926
WE JUST, AS PLANNERS,

546
00:15:59,926 --> 00:16:01,794
THREW OUT SOME AREAS

547
00:16:01,794 --> 00:16:03,696
WITH THE GREATEST NEED.

548
00:16:03,696 --> 00:16:06,766
AS I MENTIONED, EAST OF US-1

549
00:16:06,766 --> 00:16:08,301
AND IMMEDIATELY HAS

550
00:16:08,301 --> 00:16:10,002
NO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

551
00:16:10,002 --> 00:16:10,570
OPTIONS.

552
00:16:10,570 --> 00:16:11,370
>> MM-HMM.

553
00:16:11,370 --> 00:16:14,207
>> SO WE STARTED TO THINK ABOUT

554
00:16:14,207 --> 00:16:15,842
WHAT IS SOME WAY

555
00:16:15,842 --> 00:16:17,510
THAT WE CAN INCREASE

556
00:16:17,510 --> 00:16:18,344
MOBILITY THERE

557
00:16:18,344 --> 00:16:21,514
AT A RELATIVELY AFFORDABLE COST,

558
00:16:21,514 --> 00:16:23,950
AND CAR SHARE IS ONE

559
00:16:23,950 --> 00:16:25,451
OF THOSE OPTIONS.

560
00:16:25,451 --> 00:16:26,919
>> ARE WE LOOKING TO ENCOURAGE

561
00:16:26,919 --> 00:16:27,920
THEM TO USE IT

562
00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:28,788
IN AREAS THAT THERE'S

563
00:16:28,788 --> 00:16:29,255
NOT ALREADY,

564
00:16:29,255 --> 00:16:31,090
LIKE FREEBIE ACCESS

565
00:16:31,090 --> 00:16:32,959
OR MICROTRANSIT SERVICES

566
00:16:32,959 --> 00:16:33,960
IN EXISTENCE TODAY,

567
00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,062
OR WAS THAT NOT PART OF IT?

568
00:16:36,062 --> 00:16:37,630
>> OH, YEAH, YEAH,

569
00:16:37,630 --> 00:16:41,167
BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE ACCESS

570
00:16:41,167 --> 00:16:42,602
TO FREEBIE

571
00:16:42,602 --> 00:16:44,437
AND YOU HAVE ACCESS

572
00:16:44,437 --> 00:16:46,272
TO ART ON DEMAND,

573
00:16:46,272 --> 00:16:47,073
IT'S FREE.

574
00:16:47,073 --> 00:16:47,874
>> MM-HMM.

575
00:16:47,874 --> 00:16:51,210
>> BUT IF YOU HAVE THAT ACCESS

576
00:16:51,210 --> 00:16:53,346
BUT YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR FAMILY

577
00:16:53,346 --> 00:16:55,882
TO THE BIG BOX STORE...

578
00:16:55,882 --> 00:16:56,682
>> YEAH?

579
00:16:56,682 --> 00:16:58,718
>> ...IT'S PROBABLY NOT,

580
00:16:58,718 --> 00:16:59,752
IT WOULD...

581
00:16:59,752 --> 00:17:02,021
THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE USE

582
00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:03,356
CASES FOR CAR SHARE.

583
00:17:03,356 --> 00:17:04,390
>> YEAH, I CAN SEE THAT.

584
00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:05,591
BUT I DO SEE PEOPLE TAKING

585
00:17:05,591 --> 00:17:06,192
FREEBIE TO PUBLIC

586
00:17:06,192 --> 00:17:07,026
EVERY SINGLE DAY AT TAYLOR

587
00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:07,226
FREAK,

588
00:17:07,226 --> 00:17:07,927
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY

589
00:17:07,927 --> 00:17:08,628
STILL A THING.

590
00:17:08,628 --> 00:17:09,428
>> MM-HMM.

591
00:17:09,428 --> 00:17:10,363
>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING THING

592
00:17:10,363 --> 00:17:10,763
WITH ZIPCARS,

593
00:17:10,763 --> 00:17:12,098
BUT WE'RE JUST HERE

594
00:17:12,098 --> 00:17:13,099
TO ACCEPT THE...

595
00:17:13,099 --> 00:17:13,900
>> STUDY.

596
00:17:13,900 --> 00:17:15,101
YEAH, AT THIS POINT.

597
00:17:15,101 --> 00:17:16,102
>> I THINK THIS MOTION APPROVED.

598
00:17:16,102 --> 00:17:16,903
>> SECOND.

599
00:17:16,903 --> 00:17:18,137
>> OH, FINE, OKAY.

600
00:17:18,137 --> 00:17:19,805
ACTUALLY, COMMISSIONER FOWLER?

601
00:17:19,805 --> 00:17:21,540
>> SO QUICK QUESTION.

602
00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:22,775
WITH US ACCEPTING IT,

603
00:17:22,775 --> 00:17:25,278
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

604
00:17:25,278 --> 00:17:27,713
>> ONCE WE ACCEPT IT,

605
00:17:27,713 --> 00:17:29,782
THE TPO STAFF IS GOING

606
00:17:29,782 --> 00:17:31,450
TO CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE

607
00:17:31,450 --> 00:17:33,386
FDOT TO FUND IT THROUGH

608
00:17:33,386 --> 00:17:34,553
THEIR SOUTH FLORIDA

609
00:17:34,553 --> 00:17:36,856
COMMUNITY SERVICES PROGRAM.

610
00:17:36,856 --> 00:17:38,424
THEY HAVE...

611
00:17:38,424 --> 00:17:42,328
FDOT HAD A SNAG

612
00:17:42,328 --> 00:17:46,265
IN THEIR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.

613
00:17:46,265 --> 00:17:47,900
THERE WAS A CHALLENGE,

614
00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:49,568
AND SO THEY THINK

615
00:17:49,568 --> 00:17:51,370
THAT'S GOING TO BE RESOLVED

616
00:17:51,370 --> 00:17:52,104
IN DECEMBER.

617
00:17:52,104 --> 00:17:54,574
SO ONCE THAT'S RESOLVED,

618
00:17:54,574 --> 00:17:55,975
THEN WE CAN START

619
00:17:55,975 --> 00:17:57,076
THE CONVERSATION AGAIN

620
00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:59,712
WITH FDOT TO FUND IT.

621
00:17:59,712 --> 00:18:01,580
AND, OF COURSE,

622
00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:04,050
SO I GAVE THIS PRESENTATION

623
00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:06,485
TO THE LOCAL COORDINATING BOARD

624
00:18:06,485 --> 00:18:08,220
FOR THE TRANSPORTATION

625
00:18:08,220 --> 00:18:08,821
DISADVANTAGE,

626
00:18:08,821 --> 00:18:10,122
AND THERE WERE SEVERAL

627
00:18:10,122 --> 00:18:12,425
OF THE SOCIAL SERVICES AGENCIES

628
00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:14,260
WHO DID HAVE AN INTEREST.

629
00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:15,061
>> MM-HMM.

630
00:18:15,061 --> 00:18:18,631
>> SO THAT'S WHAT TPO STAFF

631
00:18:18,631 --> 00:18:21,634
IS HERE FOR, TO FACILITATE.

632
00:18:21,634 --> 00:18:22,635
IF THERE'S ANY ORGANIZATION

633
00:18:22,635 --> 00:18:23,636
THAT WANTS TO BECOME

634
00:18:23,636 --> 00:18:25,338
A HOST AGENCY,

635
00:18:25,338 --> 00:18:29,175
THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY HELP.

636
00:18:29,175 --> 00:18:30,843
>> I WILL JUST STATE

637
00:18:30,843 --> 00:18:31,844
ON THE RECORD

638
00:18:31,844 --> 00:18:34,080
THAT I WOULD NOT BE INTERESTED

639
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,517
IN HAVING THIS FUNDED

640
00:18:38,517 --> 00:18:42,855
BY A GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY.

641
00:18:42,855 --> 00:18:46,592
JUST BASED ON THE REPORT I DID

642
00:18:46,592 --> 00:18:48,227
GO THROUGH HERE,

643
00:18:48,227 --> 00:18:49,428
AT BASE VALUE AND WHAT'S

644
00:18:49,428 --> 00:18:49,929
BEEN PROVIDED,

645
00:18:49,929 --> 00:18:51,764
I'M NOT SEEING A WHOLE LOT

646
00:18:51,764 --> 00:18:52,398
OF BENEFITS.

647
00:18:52,398 --> 00:18:54,500
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE,

648
00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:55,401
ACCORDING TO THIS,

649
00:18:55,401 --> 00:18:58,137
15 CARS BEING TAKEN OFF THE ROAD

650
00:18:58,137 --> 00:18:58,537
YEARLY,

651
00:18:58,537 --> 00:18:59,939
SO THAT'S NOT DOING ANYTHING

652
00:18:59,939 --> 00:19:00,506
FOR CONGESTION,

653
00:19:00,506 --> 00:19:03,009
15 VEHICLES A YEAR.

654
00:19:03,009 --> 00:19:05,344
AND THEN IT ALSO STATES

655
00:19:05,344 --> 00:19:07,213
THAT LESS POPULATED AREAS

656
00:19:07,213 --> 00:19:08,647
ARE OFTEN NOT A GOOD FIT

657
00:19:08,647 --> 00:19:09,382
FOR CAR SHARE,

658
00:19:09,382 --> 00:19:11,517
DESPITE LIMITED MOBILITY

659
00:19:11,517 --> 00:19:12,251
OPTIONS,

660
00:19:12,251 --> 00:19:13,119
AND I JUST DON'T THINK

661
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:13,686
THAT WE ARE

662
00:19:13,686 --> 00:19:15,454
THAT URBANIZED YET.

663
00:19:15,454 --> 00:19:16,956
AGAIN, THE REPORT SAYS

664
00:19:16,956 --> 00:19:18,491
THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS

665
00:19:18,491 --> 00:19:19,792
WORK BEST IN LARGE METROPOLITAN

666
00:19:19,792 --> 00:19:20,593
AREAS WHERE PEOPLE

667
00:19:20,593 --> 00:19:22,328
LITERALLY DON'T NEED

668
00:19:22,328 --> 00:19:24,063
OR DON'T HAVE

669
00:19:24,063 --> 00:19:25,631
OR CAN WALK OR BIKE EVERYWHERE

670
00:19:25,631 --> 00:19:28,334
THAT THEY NEED TO GO.

671
00:19:28,334 --> 00:19:29,635
I THINK, AGAIN,

672
00:19:29,635 --> 00:19:31,470
FINDING NONPROFITS TO FUND THIS,

673
00:19:31,470 --> 00:19:34,140
GIVEN WHAT'S LOOMING AHEAD

674
00:19:34,140 --> 00:19:36,208
IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT.

675
00:19:36,208 --> 00:19:39,078
SO I JUST DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM

676
00:19:39,078 --> 00:19:39,912
ACCEPTING IT,

677
00:19:39,912 --> 00:19:41,981
BUT I JUST WANT TO RIGHT NOW

678
00:19:41,981 --> 00:19:43,115
GET ON THE RECORD.

679
00:19:43,115 --> 00:19:45,584
THAT I WOULD NOT BE

680
00:19:45,584 --> 00:19:46,585
INTERESTED IN...

681
00:19:46,585 --> 00:19:47,386
I SIT ON THE COUNTY,

682
00:19:47,386 --> 00:19:48,187
SO I CAN SPEAK FOR THAT

683
00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:50,189
I WOULD NOT BE INTERESTED

684
00:19:50,189 --> 00:19:51,791
IN US FUNDING THIS.

685
00:19:51,791 --> 00:19:52,591
>> LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

686
00:19:52,591 --> 00:19:53,559
>> YEAH, I JUST DON'T THINK

687
00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:54,060
WE'RE BIG ENOUGH

688
00:19:54,060 --> 00:19:56,062
WHERE THIS WOULD REALLY HAVE

689
00:19:56,062 --> 00:19:57,696
A REAL BIG IMPACT.

690
00:19:57,696 --> 00:19:58,998
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE,

691
00:19:58,998 --> 00:19:59,231
RIGHT,

692
00:19:59,231 --> 00:20:00,499
LIKE THE MAYOR POINTED OUT,

693
00:20:00,499 --> 00:20:01,634
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE

694
00:20:01,634 --> 00:20:02,435
AND THESE ARE SITTING

695
00:20:02,435 --> 00:20:03,836
AT STRATEGICALLY PLACED

696
00:20:03,836 --> 00:20:04,336
LOCATIONS,

697
00:20:04,336 --> 00:20:06,605
MAYBE LAST MILE, I GET THAT,

698
00:20:06,605 --> 00:20:07,473
BUT OTHERWISE HOW ELSE

699
00:20:07,473 --> 00:20:08,607
ARE YOU USING IT IF

700
00:20:08,607 --> 00:20:10,509
YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR?

701
00:20:10,509 --> 00:20:11,777
YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING A LYFT

702
00:20:11,777 --> 00:20:13,179
OR AN UBER USING

703
00:20:13,179 --> 00:20:13,879
THE MICROTRANSIT.

704
00:20:13,879 --> 00:20:15,047
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE

705
00:20:15,047 --> 00:20:16,015
THAT JUST TO STOP

706
00:20:16,015 --> 00:20:17,349
AND GET OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE

707
00:20:17,349 --> 00:20:18,484
TO GET INTO ANOTHER

708
00:20:18,484 --> 00:20:19,085
RENTAL VEHICLE.

709
00:20:19,085 --> 00:20:20,653
SO JUST,

710
00:20:20,653 --> 00:20:21,754
AGAIN, NO PROBLEMS

711
00:20:21,754 --> 00:20:22,521
WITH ACCEPTING,

712
00:20:22,521 --> 00:20:23,222
BUT I JUST WANTED

713
00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:23,923
TO GET MY COMMENTS

714
00:20:23,923 --> 00:20:24,723
ON THE RECORD.

715
00:20:24,723 --> 00:20:25,524
>> AND TO YOUR POINT,

716
00:20:25,524 --> 00:20:26,592
SO I LOOK AT IT FROM

717
00:20:26,592 --> 00:20:26,959
THE PERSPECTIVE

718
00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:27,993
THE AVERAGE UBER RIDE,

719
00:20:27,993 --> 00:20:29,128
LET'S SAY, IS $20, $30,

720
00:20:29,128 --> 00:20:30,362
AND THEN YOU RENT THIS

721
00:20:30,362 --> 00:20:31,397
AND IT'S $20, $30.

722
00:20:31,397 --> 00:20:33,165
LIKE, IT'S A COST THING, TOO,

723
00:20:33,165 --> 00:20:34,100
BECAUSE THESE ARE PEOPLE

724
00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:34,800
THAT EITHER, A,

725
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,001
WANT TO SAVE MONEY ON HAVING

726
00:20:36,001 --> 00:20:37,203
A VEHICLE OR MAY NOT BE

727
00:20:37,203 --> 00:20:40,239
ABLE TO AFFORD A VEHICLE.

728
00:20:40,239 --> 00:20:41,307
WHAT I THINK IS WHAT I WOULD

729
00:20:41,307 --> 00:20:41,941
LIKE TO SEE IS

730
00:20:41,941 --> 00:20:43,008
IF THESE CONVERSATIONS

731
00:20:43,008 --> 00:20:43,742
MOVE FORWARD

732
00:20:43,742 --> 00:20:45,244
AND THERE ARE INTERESTED

733
00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:45,644
PARTIES,

734
00:20:45,644 --> 00:20:47,113
I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM

735
00:20:47,113 --> 00:20:48,013
TO PROVIDE US

736
00:20:48,013 --> 00:20:51,050
A BUSINESS PLAN OF HOW EXACTLY

737
00:20:51,050 --> 00:20:53,586
THERE WILL BE A NO COST RATIO

738
00:20:53,586 --> 00:20:55,621
TO ANY OF THE GOVERNMENTAL

739
00:20:55,621 --> 00:20:56,055
AGENCIES.

740
00:20:56,055 --> 00:20:56,889
AND THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY,

741
00:20:56,889 --> 00:20:58,991
IF THEY PLAN ON UTILIZING

742
00:20:58,991 --> 00:20:59,859
PUBLIC SPACES,

743
00:20:59,859 --> 00:21:02,061
THAT THEY WOULD LEASE THEM

744
00:21:02,061 --> 00:21:02,528
APPROPRIATELY

745
00:21:02,528 --> 00:21:03,529
WITH THE AGENCY.

746
00:21:03,529 --> 00:21:05,197
BECAUSE TO ME THAT'S

747
00:21:05,197 --> 00:21:06,499
THE WHOLE THING.

748
00:21:06,499 --> 00:21:08,000
PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR US

749
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,235
TO DIVERSIFY OUR FUNDING.

750
00:21:09,235 --> 00:21:10,669
I THINK EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT

751
00:21:10,669 --> 00:21:11,270
IN FLORIDA

752
00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:12,438
IS GOING TO BE DOING THAT.

753
00:21:12,438 --> 00:21:13,639
I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES

754
00:21:13,639 --> 00:21:14,673
TO PARTNER WITH BUSINESS,

755
00:21:14,673 --> 00:21:15,841
BUT BUSINESS NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND

756
00:21:15,841 --> 00:21:17,443
THAT WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT THEM

757
00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:19,178
TO PAY BUSINESS PRICES

758
00:21:19,178 --> 00:21:20,513
JUST LIKE THEY EXPECT

759
00:21:20,513 --> 00:21:21,514
TO RECEIVE DOLLARS

760
00:21:21,514 --> 00:21:22,748
AT THE SAME LEVEL.

761
00:21:22,748 --> 00:21:23,549
SO,

762
00:21:23,549 --> 00:21:23,983
SO,

763
00:21:23,983 --> 00:21:25,351
A DISCOUNT, RIGHT?

764
00:21:25,351 --> 00:21:26,152
THEY'RE CHARGING FULL FREIGHT

765
00:21:26,152 --> 00:21:27,153
AND EXPECTING US TO

766
00:21:27,153 --> 00:21:27,686
SUBSIDIZE IT.

767
00:21:27,686 --> 00:21:28,354
AND CHART... YOU KNOW WHAT I

768
00:21:28,354 --> 00:21:28,487
MEAN?

769
00:21:28,487 --> 00:21:30,356
LIKE, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT...

770
00:21:30,356 --> 00:21:32,691
THERE'S NO DISCOUNTS BEING GIVEN

771
00:21:32,691 --> 00:21:33,626
TO ANYBODY.

772
00:21:33,626 --> 00:21:34,393
BUT, YES,

773
00:21:34,393 --> 00:21:35,661
I SEE IT WORK WELL

774
00:21:35,661 --> 00:21:36,462
IN METROPOLITAN AREAS.

775
00:21:36,462 --> 00:21:37,997
IN FACT, WHEN I ACTUALLY

776
00:21:37,997 --> 00:21:39,265
WENT INTO A ZIPCAR,

777
00:21:39,265 --> 00:21:41,600
THE PERSON LIVED IN D.C.

778
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,668
THEY WANTED TO GO OUT

779
00:21:42,668 --> 00:21:43,335
FOR THE DAY,

780
00:21:43,335 --> 00:21:44,870
AND THEY DECIDED TO UTILIZE

781
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:45,504
THAT ZIPCAR

782
00:21:45,504 --> 00:21:46,872
TO GO TO VIRGINIA OR DO

783
00:21:46,872 --> 00:21:47,339
OTHER THINGS,

784
00:21:47,339 --> 00:21:49,742
BUT THEY USED INTERNAL SUBWAYS

785
00:21:49,742 --> 00:21:50,709
AND STUFF.

786
00:21:50,709 --> 00:21:53,245
SO, I THINK IT WORKS

787
00:21:53,245 --> 00:21:53,913
IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO

788
00:21:53,913 --> 00:21:54,346
OUT OF TOWN.

789
00:21:54,346 --> 00:21:55,147
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE

790
00:21:55,147 --> 00:21:57,483
ARE GOING TO USE IT FOR INSIDE.

791
00:21:57,483 --> 00:21:58,284
>> COMMISSIONER CLASBY,

792
00:21:58,284 --> 00:21:59,485
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE

793
00:21:59,485 --> 00:21:59,985
UNDER DISCUSSION?

794
00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:00,986
>> YEAH, SOMETHING TO JUST

795
00:22:00,986 --> 00:22:01,587
KIND OF CONSIDER.

796
00:22:01,587 --> 00:22:02,721
THE ZIP CAR THING DOESN'T

797
00:22:02,721 --> 00:22:03,889
HAVE TO JUST BE LIKE,

798
00:22:03,889 --> 00:22:06,559
A TWO PASSENGER COMMUTER CAR.

799
00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:07,359
IT COULD BE A VAN.

800
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,761
SO, LIKE, IF YOU DON'T OWN

801
00:22:08,761 --> 00:22:09,228
A VAN,

802
00:22:09,228 --> 00:22:11,230
MAYBE YOU WANTED TO TAKE

803
00:22:11,230 --> 00:22:12,431
COUSINS OR DAYCARE,

804
00:22:12,431 --> 00:22:14,133
OR GROUP OF KIDS TO THE MOVIES,

805
00:22:14,133 --> 00:22:14,400
WHATEVER,

806
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,634
YOU CAN GO RENT A ZIP CAR

807
00:22:15,634 --> 00:22:16,902
AND GO DO THAT FOR THE MOMENT

808
00:22:16,902 --> 00:22:18,537
WITHOUT HAVING TO RENT A VEHICLE

809
00:22:18,537 --> 00:22:19,939
FOR THE WEEK OR SOMETHING.

810
00:22:19,939 --> 00:22:21,173
I MEAN, THERE'S DEFINITELY

811
00:22:21,173 --> 00:22:21,807
OTHER USES.

812
00:22:21,807 --> 00:22:23,108
HOPEFULLY WE'D SEE THAT SORT

813
00:22:23,108 --> 00:22:24,677
OF USE RATHER THAN JUST LIKE,

814
00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:26,278
OKAY, IT'S A TESLA OR IT'S

815
00:22:26,278 --> 00:22:27,379
A PRIUS OR SOMETHING,

816
00:22:27,379 --> 00:22:28,214
WHERE YOU COULD HAVE

817
00:22:28,214 --> 00:22:28,847
TWO PEOPLE ON.

818
00:22:28,847 --> 00:22:30,082
YEAH, IT SHOULD BE LIKE

819
00:22:30,082 --> 00:22:31,584
A UNIQUE NICHE TYPE OF THING,

820
00:22:31,584 --> 00:22:33,819
NOT JUST THAT SORT OF STUFF

821
00:22:33,819 --> 00:22:34,587
OR SOMETHING.

822
00:22:34,587 --> 00:22:36,589
>> OKAY, SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION

823
00:22:36,589 --> 00:22:38,123
ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND,

824
00:22:38,123 --> 00:22:39,124
AND WE ARE STILL

825
00:22:39,124 --> 00:22:39,625
UNDER DISCUSSION.

826
00:22:39,625 --> 00:22:41,160
SO, COUNCILWOMAN MORGAN?

827
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,862
>> SO, I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING

828
00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:45,030
OF THE FUTURE,

829
00:22:45,030 --> 00:22:46,131
[LAUGHS]

830
00:22:46,131 --> 00:22:48,701
AND FOR US OLD PEOPLE,

831
00:22:48,701 --> 00:22:50,803
IT'S DIFFICULT TO GRASP.

832
00:22:50,803 --> 00:22:53,305
FIRST THING THAT CAME UP

833
00:22:53,305 --> 00:22:55,307
FOR ME WAS LIABILITY,

834
00:22:55,307 --> 00:22:58,143
AND WHAT IS THE MEMBERSHIP COST.

835
00:22:58,143 --> 00:23:00,112
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE

836
00:23:00,112 --> 00:23:00,913
A MEMBERSHIP...

837
00:23:00,913 --> 00:23:02,248
>> ...BEFORE YOU CAN DO THAT.

838
00:23:02,248 --> 00:23:03,582
>> THAT WAS IN THE STUDY.

839
00:23:03,582 --> 00:23:04,850
>> YES.

840
00:23:04,850 --> 00:23:06,952
>> I DON'T SEE IT LISTED ON

841
00:23:06,952 --> 00:23:08,487
THE COMPARISON, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

842
00:23:08,487 --> 00:23:10,522
THE OTHER THING WAS IT SAYS

843
00:23:10,522 --> 00:23:11,891
DRIVER'S LICENSE, CLEAN RECORD.

844
00:23:11,891 --> 00:23:13,192
WELL, WHO'S DRIVER'S LICENSE?

845
00:23:13,192 --> 00:23:14,360
HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S

846
00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:15,094
HIS DRIVER'S LICENSE?

847
00:23:15,094 --> 00:23:16,495
HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S NOT

848
00:23:16,495 --> 00:23:16,962
SOMEBODY ELSE'S?

849
00:23:16,962 --> 00:23:18,497
I MEAN, BUT IT'S NOT FOR ME

850
00:23:18,497 --> 00:23:19,198
TO FIGURE OUT.

851
00:23:19,198 --> 00:23:21,834
IT'S FOR THEM OR THE COMPANY,

852
00:23:21,834 --> 00:23:23,602
BUT IT'S VERY DIFFERENT.

853
00:23:23,602 --> 00:23:27,106
BUT I HAVE TO TEND TO AGREE

854
00:23:27,106 --> 00:23:28,607
WITH COMMISSIONER FOWLER.

855
00:23:28,607 --> 00:23:32,211
REGARDING IT'S, I COULD SEE IT

856
00:23:32,211 --> 00:23:34,613
IN DC, ORLANDO, MIAMI,

857
00:23:34,613 --> 00:23:37,349
BUT HERE, IT JUST, OF COURSE,

858
00:23:37,349 --> 00:23:38,751
WE'RE GETTING THERE.

859
00:23:38,751 --> 00:23:40,419
WE'RE SURELY GETTING THERE,

860
00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:41,287
BUT INTERESTING.

861
00:23:41,287 --> 00:23:42,187
>> WELL, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN,

862
00:23:42,187 --> 00:23:42,922
>> ...IF I MAY ADD.

863
00:23:42,922 --> 00:23:43,389
 >> OF COURSE.

864
00:23:43,389 --> 00:23:45,024
>> AND THAT'S WHY WE DO THESE

865
00:23:45,024 --> 00:23:45,491
STUDIES IS,

866
00:23:45,491 --> 00:23:46,425
IT'S WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD

867
00:23:46,425 --> 00:23:47,259
WORK HERE AT THIS TIME.

868
00:23:47,259 --> 00:23:48,994
WE FIND OUT ABOUT THIS AND WE

869
00:23:48,994 --> 00:23:50,529
EXPERIENCE A NEW TYPE OF TOOL,

870
00:23:50,529 --> 00:23:51,764
MOBILITY TOOL THAT WE COULD

871
00:23:51,764 --> 00:23:53,032
PUT IN THE TOOL BAG.

872
00:23:53,032 --> 00:23:54,266
AND THAT'S WHY THIS WAS

873
00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:55,267
CONCEIVED TWO YEARS AGO

874
00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:56,435
TO GO AHEAD AND STUDY THIS

875
00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:57,436
WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD

876
00:23:57,436 --> 00:23:57,836
WORK HERE.

877
00:23:57,836 --> 00:23:58,337
IT'S PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE

878
00:23:58,337 --> 00:23:58,671
TO SAY,

879
00:23:58,671 --> 00:23:59,571
WELL, IT MIGHT NOT WORK HERE

880
00:23:59,571 --> 00:23:59,905
RIGHT NOW,

881
00:23:59,905 --> 00:24:00,906
UNLESS YOU HAVE THE

882
00:24:00,906 --> 00:24:01,674
RIGHT TO HOST

883
00:24:01,674 --> 00:24:02,775
THAT'S LOCATED THE RIGHT THING.

884
00:24:02,775 --> 00:24:04,376
BUT AT LEAST, WE DO HAVE A

885
00:24:04,376 --> 00:24:05,778
BLUEPRINT FOR A HOST TO FOLLOW,

886
00:24:05,778 --> 00:24:07,479
ABOUT 18 GRAND FOR FOUR CARS.

887
00:24:07,479 --> 00:24:08,847
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN

888
00:24:08,847 --> 00:24:09,715
SITUATE IT, WHERE...

889
00:24:09,715 --> 00:24:10,849
THE BEAUTY OF THE PROGRAM IS

890
00:24:10,849 --> 00:24:12,184
IF IT'S NOT WORKING IN ONE AREA,

891
00:24:12,184 --> 00:24:13,952
YOU CAN PICK IT UP AND MOVE IT

892
00:24:13,952 --> 00:24:14,653
TO ANOTHER AREA.

893
00:24:14,653 --> 00:24:15,821
BUT IT'S PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE

894
00:24:15,821 --> 00:24:17,890
TO SAY, YEAH, IT'S A GOOD STUDY.

895
00:24:17,890 --> 00:24:19,391
AND THE REASON WHY WE ASK YOU

896
00:24:19,391 --> 00:24:20,259
TO ACCEPT THE STUDY,

897
00:24:20,259 --> 00:24:21,994
BECAUSE, STAFF DID THE STUDY.

898
00:24:21,994 --> 00:24:23,162
IS IT... DID IT GET TO WHERE

899
00:24:23,162 --> 00:24:24,530
WE NEED IT TO GO IN TERMS OF,

900
00:24:24,530 --> 00:24:25,964
WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL WORK HERE

901
00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:26,398
OR NOT?

902
00:24:26,398 --> 00:24:28,534
IT WOULD WORK HERE UNDER

903
00:24:28,534 --> 00:24:29,401
SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES.

904
00:24:29,401 --> 00:24:30,803
SO THAT'S WHY WE ASK FOR

905
00:24:30,803 --> 00:24:31,971
YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THE STUDY.

906
00:24:31,971 --> 00:24:33,038
>> YEP.

907
00:24:33,038 --> 00:24:34,473
>> VERY GOOD, AND I JUST WANT

908
00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:35,507
TO SAY THAT I AGREE

909
00:24:35,507 --> 00:24:36,942
WITH COMMISSIONER FOWLER.

910
00:24:36,942 --> 00:24:38,110
I'M NOT SURE IF PUBLIC FUNDING

911
00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:39,311
IS THE PLACE TO LOOK FOR,

912
00:24:39,311 --> 00:24:41,013
OR ITS EXISTENCE.

913
00:24:41,013 --> 00:24:41,947
HOWEVER, I'VE SEEN

914
00:24:41,947 --> 00:24:42,614
PILOT PROGRAMS

915
00:24:42,614 --> 00:24:43,382
THAT I DIDN'T THINK WERE

916
00:24:43,382 --> 00:24:44,350
GOING TO WORK IN OUR AREA

917
00:24:44,350 --> 00:24:46,018
TAKE OFF LIKE WILDFIRE.

918
00:24:46,018 --> 00:24:47,586
SO IF SOMEBODY IS WILLING

919
00:24:47,586 --> 00:24:48,554
TO FUND IT,

920
00:24:48,554 --> 00:24:50,055
I DON'T SEE WHY WE DON'T

921
00:24:50,055 --> 00:24:51,090
LET THEM DO THAT.

922
00:24:51,090 --> 00:24:51,824
>> OF COURSE, IF THAT'S NOT

923
00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:52,224
WHAT YOU DO.

924
00:24:52,224 --> 00:24:53,492
>> YEAH, VERY GOOD.

925
00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:55,227
ALL RIGHT.  THERE IS A MOTION ON

926
00:24:55,227 --> 00:24:55,728
THE FLOOR.

927
00:24:55,728 --> 00:24:57,496
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

928
00:24:57,496 --> 00:24:59,198
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING

929
00:24:59,198 --> 00:24:59,765
THE STUDY?

930
00:24:59,765 --> 00:25:00,566
>> AYE.

931
00:25:00,566 --> 00:25:01,967
>> ANY OPPOSED?

932
00:25:01,967 --> 00:25:04,103
ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON.

933
00:25:04,103 --> 00:25:04,870
>> WELL, THANK YOU,

934
00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:05,237
MADAM CHAIRWOMAN

935
00:25:05,237 --> 00:25:06,238
AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

936
00:25:06,238 --> 00:25:08,307
LET'S KEEP MARCIA RIGHT HERE

937
00:25:08,307 --> 00:25:10,376
TO PRESENT THE NEXT ITEM.

938
00:25:10,376 --> 00:25:12,277
>> THANK YOU, PETER,

939
00:25:12,277 --> 00:25:13,712
MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS

940
00:25:13,712 --> 00:25:15,147
OF THE BOARD.

941
00:25:15,147 --> 00:25:18,150
TRANSPORTATION HUBS CONNECT

942
00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:21,153
FORMS OF TRAVEL.

943
00:25:21,153 --> 00:25:23,689
AND A SUCCESSFUL HUB IS

944
00:25:23,689 --> 00:25:25,724
THE GATLIN JOBS EXPRESS

945
00:25:25,724 --> 00:25:27,259
PARK AND RIDE.

946
00:25:27,259 --> 00:25:30,429
THERE'S REGIONAL BUSES LIKE THE

947
00:25:30,429 --> 00:25:34,299
EXPRESS BUS TO WEST PALM BEACH.

948
00:25:34,299 --> 00:25:37,536
THERE'S GREYHOUND AND FLIX BUS.

949
00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:41,340
THEN THERE ARE THE LOCAL BUSES,

950
00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:43,876
THE TRANSIT AND MICROTRANSIT.

951
00:25:43,876 --> 00:25:48,180
PARK AND RIDE, MORE THAN

952
00:25:48,180 --> 00:25:50,783
100 PARKING SPACES.

953
00:25:50,783 --> 00:25:52,418
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGERS,

954
00:25:52,418 --> 00:25:54,086
BIKE PIT FEATURES,

955
00:25:54,086 --> 00:25:57,756
ALL OF THEM SUCCESSFUL.

956
00:25:57,756 --> 00:26:01,193
AND THE GATLIN JOBS EXPRESS

957
00:26:01,193 --> 00:26:03,962
IS LOCATED ON I-95.

958
00:26:03,962 --> 00:26:08,667
EXCUSE ME, NEAR I-95 ON GATLIN

959
00:26:08,667 --> 00:26:09,468
BOULEVARD.

960
00:26:09,468 --> 00:26:11,804
AND SO, THE SUSTAINABLE

961
00:26:11,804 --> 00:26:12,971
TRANSPORTATION PLAN

962
00:26:12,971 --> 00:26:17,409
THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2023,

963
00:26:17,409 --> 00:26:20,379
AND WE USED IT TO LOOK AT

964
00:26:20,379 --> 00:26:23,682
WHERE THE NEXT GATLIN JOBS

965
00:26:23,682 --> 00:26:25,684
EXPRESS MIGHT BE.

966
00:26:25,684 --> 00:26:28,854
AND THE PLAN HAS A

967
00:26:28,854 --> 00:26:30,122
PRIORITIZED LIST,

968
00:26:30,122 --> 00:26:33,325
AND TWO OF THOSE AREAS

969
00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:36,528
ARE OKEECHOBEE ROAD NEAR I-95,

970
00:26:36,528 --> 00:26:40,332
AND...

971
00:26:40,332 --> 00:26:45,704
TRADITIONS IN PORT ST. LUCIE.

972
00:26:45,704 --> 00:26:50,676
SO WE ALSO HAD TO USE

973
00:26:50,676 --> 00:26:54,012
CERTAIN CRITERIA FOR PARCELS.

974
00:26:54,012 --> 00:26:55,981
THEY HAVE TO BE

975
00:26:55,981 --> 00:26:56,482
GOVERNMENT-OWNED,

976
00:26:56,482 --> 00:26:58,484
AND, OF COURSE, IT WOULD BE

977
00:26:58,484 --> 00:26:58,817
BETTER,

978
00:26:58,817 --> 00:27:01,553
IF IT WAS A LARGE

979
00:27:01,553 --> 00:27:02,654
COMMERCIAL PLAZA,

980
00:27:02,654 --> 00:27:03,956
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,

981
00:27:03,956 --> 00:27:05,257
BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW,

982
00:27:05,257 --> 00:27:07,926
ANOTHER LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY.

983
00:27:07,926 --> 00:27:09,261
THE SITE...

984
00:27:09,261 --> 00:27:12,331
THE PARCELS HAS TO BE VACANT...

985
00:27:12,331 --> 00:27:14,099
SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT ON

986
00:27:14,099 --> 00:27:15,868
A MAJOR STREET...

987
00:27:15,868 --> 00:27:18,303
LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE

988
00:27:18,303 --> 00:27:22,007
ALL THE COMPONENTS OF A HUB,

989
00:27:22,007 --> 00:27:24,843
AND ALSO LOOKING INTO

990
00:27:24,843 --> 00:27:27,012
ITS FUTURE PLANS.

991
00:27:27,012 --> 00:27:30,048
AND SO THE TRIANGLE THERE IS

992
00:27:30,048 --> 00:27:31,583
GATLIN JOBS EXPRESS,

993
00:27:31,583 --> 00:27:33,519
WHICH WAS IN THE SOUTH PART

994
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:34,486
OF THE COUNTY.

995
00:27:34,486 --> 00:27:37,856
AND SO, THE TRANSPORTATION

996
00:27:37,856 --> 00:27:39,558
HUB STUDY,

997
00:27:39,558 --> 00:27:41,760
WILL LOOK AT THREE PARCELS

998
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,897
AND THEN NARROW IT DOWN TO TWO,

999
00:27:44,897 --> 00:27:46,899
FOR FURTHER ANALYSIS.

1000
00:27:46,899 --> 00:27:51,036
SO TWO OF THE PARCELS ARE

1001
00:27:51,036 --> 00:27:53,105
IN FORT PIERCE,

1002
00:27:53,105 --> 00:27:56,808
AND THE OTHER IS IN CENTRAL

1003
00:27:56,808 --> 00:27:58,677
PORT ST. LUCIE.

1004
00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:01,413
THE FORT PIERCE RIGHT

1005
00:28:01,413 --> 00:28:03,482
ON OKEECHOBEE ROAD,

1006
00:28:03,482 --> 00:28:07,319
ON BOTH SIDES OF THE TURNPIKE.

1007
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:09,187
AND ALSO ADJACENT

1008
00:28:09,187 --> 00:28:12,925
AND RIGHT BELOW ON GORDIE ROAD,

1009
00:28:12,925 --> 00:28:15,594
SOUTH OF OKEECHOBEE.

1010
00:28:15,594 --> 00:28:17,896
AND THE FIRST PARCEL IS OWNED

1011
00:28:17,896 --> 00:28:19,064
BY THE TURNPIKE,

1012
00:28:19,064 --> 00:28:20,232
AND AS YOU CAN SEE,

1013
00:28:20,232 --> 00:28:23,135
IT'S ON EITHER SIDE OF

1014
00:28:23,135 --> 00:28:24,303
THE TURNPIKE,

1015
00:28:24,303 --> 00:28:26,305
AND RIGHT BELOW IT

1016
00:28:26,305 --> 00:28:28,340
IN THE OUTLINE IS,

1017
00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:30,242
THIS PARCEL THAT'S OWNED

1018
00:28:30,242 --> 00:28:31,210
BY FLORIDA

1019
00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:33,345
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION,

1020
00:28:33,345 --> 00:28:35,581
AND THEY'RE BOTH SIZABLE

1021
00:28:35,581 --> 00:28:36,148
PARCELS.

1022
00:28:36,148 --> 00:28:38,383
NOW, THE OTHER PARCELS, YOU SEE

1023
00:28:38,383 --> 00:28:40,252
THERE'S A VACANT PARCEL THERE,

1024
00:28:40,252 --> 00:28:42,854
RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE

1025
00:28:42,854 --> 00:28:45,057
WALTON AND ONE CENTER, ON

1026
00:28:45,057 --> 00:28:45,958
U.S. 1.

1027
00:28:45,958 --> 00:28:49,695
THAT'S SOUTH OF VETERANS

1028
00:28:49,695 --> 00:28:51,597
MEMORIAL PARKWAY.

1029
00:28:51,597 --> 00:28:53,398
AND THERE'S A PARCEL THERE

1030
00:28:53,398 --> 00:28:55,233
THAT'S OWNED BY THE CITY

1031
00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:56,335
PORT ST. LUCIE.

1032
00:28:56,335 --> 00:28:58,170
NOW, THERE ARE WETLAND ISSUES

1033
00:28:58,170 --> 00:28:59,304
ON THAT SIDE,

1034
00:28:59,304 --> 00:29:02,107
SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE

1035
00:29:02,107 --> 00:29:02,608
ADDRESSED.

1036
00:29:02,608 --> 00:29:04,209
>> THAT WE CAN'T, GO BACK

1037
00:29:04,209 --> 00:29:04,776
REAL QUICK.

1038
00:29:04,776 --> 00:29:08,113
I BELIEVE, ISN'T THAT THAT SAME

1039
00:29:08,113 --> 00:29:10,349
MITIGATED PIECE OF LAND

1040
00:29:10,349 --> 00:29:11,383
THAT SOMEONE WAS TRYING TO PUT

1041
00:29:11,383 --> 00:29:11,917
A CAMPER ON,

1042
00:29:11,917 --> 00:29:13,819
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,

1043
00:29:13,819 --> 00:29:15,253
AND WE BASICALLY,

1044
00:29:15,253 --> 00:29:17,689
I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S

1045
00:29:17,689 --> 00:29:20,158
A PRESERVE, ISN'T IT?

1046
00:29:20,158 --> 00:29:21,193
IT'S A PARK.

1047
00:29:21,193 --> 00:29:22,628
I THINK THAT'S RIGHT...

1048
00:29:22,628 --> 00:29:23,762
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT?

1049
00:29:23,762 --> 00:29:24,429
>> I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE

1050
00:29:24,429 --> 00:29:24,730
TALKING ABOUT.

1051
00:29:24,730 --> 00:29:25,597
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE

1052
00:29:25,597 --> 00:29:25,897
PARCEL, THOUGH.

1053
00:29:25,897 --> 00:29:26,732
>> THAT'S NOT, IT'S HARD

1054
00:29:26,732 --> 00:29:27,566
TO TELL FROM THIS MAP.

1055
00:29:27,566 --> 00:29:28,967
>> BUT, YEAH.

1056
00:29:28,967 --> 00:29:29,935
>> OKAY.

1057
00:29:29,935 --> 00:29:31,103
>> THAT'S US1, RIGHT?

1058
00:29:31,103 --> 00:29:32,738
>> YEAH, BUT I'M NOT FAMILIAR

1059
00:29:32,738 --> 00:29:33,572
WITH THAT PARCEL.

1060
00:29:33,572 --> 00:29:34,539
>> AND THAT'S ACROSS

1061
00:29:34,539 --> 00:29:35,507
FROM THE FLORIDA CENTER.

1062
00:29:35,507 --> 00:29:38,877
>> IT'S ACROSS FROM BIG FLORIDA.

1063
00:29:38,877 --> 00:29:40,679
>> YEAH. WOW. OKAY.

1064
00:29:40,679 --> 00:29:41,680
>> I'M GOING TO GOOGLE IT

1065
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,014
RIGHT NOW.

1066
00:29:42,014 --> 00:29:44,316
>> THAT'S SPANISH LAKES, RIGHT?

1067
00:29:44,316 --> 00:29:45,350
>> MM-MM.

1068
00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:46,251
>> NO.

1069
00:29:46,251 --> 00:29:48,420
>> IT'S EVERGREEN CONDOS.

1070
00:29:48,420 --> 00:29:49,688
>> WHAT WAS ON, OH, IT WAS

1071
00:29:49,688 --> 00:29:50,055
JUST HOUSING.

1072
00:29:50,055 --> 00:29:50,956
>> THAT'S US1.

1073
00:29:50,956 --> 00:29:52,124
>> BUT ANYWAY.

1074
00:29:52,124 --> 00:29:53,892
>> THE ONLY THING I KNOW THAT

1075
00:29:53,892 --> 00:29:55,427
WE HAVE ON US1 IS THE...

1076
00:29:55,427 --> 00:29:56,428
PRESERVE PIECE.

1077
00:29:56,428 --> 00:29:57,529
>> OKAY.

1078
00:29:57,529 --> 00:29:58,497
>> WELL, YOU GOOGLE THAT.

1079
00:29:58,497 --> 00:30:00,265
GO AHEAD, MARCIA.

1080
00:30:00,265 --> 00:30:02,134
>> SO THE TRANSPORTATION HUB

1081
00:30:02,134 --> 00:30:02,534
STUDY,

1082
00:30:02,534 --> 00:30:04,903
WOULD LOOK AT EXISTING

1083
00:30:04,903 --> 00:30:07,272
CONDITIONS AROUND THE PARCELS,

1084
00:30:07,272 --> 00:30:10,375
WOULD DO AN INVENTORY OF

1085
00:30:10,375 --> 00:30:12,277
THE SITES THEMSELVES,

1086
00:30:12,277 --> 00:30:16,615
A MARKET ANALYSIS, AND SPACE

1087
00:30:16,615 --> 00:30:17,482
REQUIREMENTS,

1088
00:30:17,482 --> 00:30:19,985
SO THAT ALL THE COMPONENTS OF

1089
00:30:19,985 --> 00:30:22,087
A TRANSPORTATION HUB WOULD FIT,

1090
00:30:22,087 --> 00:30:23,655
SAFETY AND SECURITY,

1091
00:30:23,655 --> 00:30:25,757
AND DO SKETCH-LEVEL COSTS,

1092
00:30:25,757 --> 00:30:27,826
FOR SITE PREPARATION

1093
00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:29,227
AND CONSTRUCTION.

1094
00:30:29,227 --> 00:30:32,597
AND THE STUDY WOULD BE CONDUCTED

1095
00:30:32,597 --> 00:30:34,299
BY VINESH CONSULTANTS,

1096
00:30:34,299 --> 00:30:36,835
ONE OF THE TPO'S GENERAL

1097
00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:37,869
PLANNING CONSULTANTS,

1098
00:30:37,869 --> 00:30:41,206
COMPLETION BY JUNE 2027 FOR

1099
00:30:41,206 --> 00:30:43,875
A COST OF $60,000.

1100
00:30:43,875 --> 00:30:46,178
AND THE STUDY IS INCLUDED

1101
00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:49,514
IN OUR UNIFIED PLANNING WORK

1102
00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:50,215
PROGRAM.

1103
00:30:50,215 --> 00:30:51,917
AND THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES

1104
00:30:51,917 --> 00:30:54,086
DURING THEIR MEETINGS IN JULY,

1105
00:30:54,086 --> 00:30:56,021
RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF

1106
00:30:56,021 --> 00:30:58,623
THE TRANSPORTATION HUB STUDY

1107
00:30:58,623 --> 00:31:00,592
SCOPE OF SERVICES.

1108
00:31:00,592 --> 00:31:01,993
AND THAT CONCLUDES

1109
00:31:01,993 --> 00:31:02,928
MY PRESENTATION.

1110
00:31:02,928 --> 00:31:05,263
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER

1111
00:31:05,263 --> 00:31:07,132
ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

1112
00:31:07,132 --> 00:31:09,434
>> OKAY.

1113
00:31:09,434 --> 00:31:11,837
QUESTIONS?

1114
00:31:11,837 --> 00:31:13,071
NO. ALL RIGHT.

1115
00:31:13,071 --> 00:31:15,507
THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

1116
00:31:15,507 --> 00:31:16,308
>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

1117
00:31:16,308 --> 00:31:17,676
>> SECOND.

1118
00:31:17,676 --> 00:31:18,944
>> ANY FURTHER?

1119
00:31:18,944 --> 00:31:19,978
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

1120
00:31:19,978 --> 00:31:20,779
>> AYE.

1121
00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:22,147
>> ANY OPPOSED?

1122
00:31:22,147 --> 00:31:24,149
IT IS ACCEPTED. MOTION CARRIES.

1123
00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:25,217
DISCUSSION ITEMS:

1124
00:31:25,217 --> 00:31:27,853
TRANSPORTATION, ASSET, SERVICE,

1125
00:31:27,853 --> 00:31:28,754
VULNERABILITY.

1126
00:31:28,754 --> 00:31:29,988
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR,

1127
00:31:29,988 --> 00:31:31,223
AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

1128
00:31:31,223 --> 00:31:32,791
LET'S BRING STEPHANIE TORRES,

1129
00:31:32,791 --> 00:31:34,326
THE TPO'S   ENVIRONMENTAL

1130
00:31:34,326 --> 00:31:35,360
PROGRAM MANAGER,

1131
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,928
UP TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.

1132
00:31:36,928 --> 00:31:37,929
>> THANK YOU, PETER.

1133
00:31:37,929 --> 00:31:39,064
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR,

1134
00:31:39,064 --> 00:31:40,232
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

1135
00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:42,567
TASK 3.9, ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING

1136
00:31:42,567 --> 00:31:44,236
OF THE UNIFIED PLANNING WORK

1137
00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:44,569
PROGRAM,

1138
00:31:44,569 --> 00:31:45,971
INCLUDES A PERIODIC

1139
00:31:45,971 --> 00:31:47,405
TRANSPORTATION ASSET SERVICE

1140
00:31:47,405 --> 00:31:49,474
VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT UPDATE,

1141
00:31:49,474 --> 00:31:52,677
TO EVALUATE THE POTENTIAL

1142
00:31:52,677 --> 00:31:55,881
NATURAL DISASTER HAZARD RISK.

1143
00:31:55,881 --> 00:31:56,815
TO AVOID DUPLICATING

1144
00:31:56,815 --> 00:31:58,083
THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY'S

1145
00:31:58,083 --> 00:31:59,417
RESILIENCE PLANNING EFFORTS,

1146
00:31:59,417 --> 00:32:00,952
TPO STAFF PARTICIPATED IN

1147
00:32:00,952 --> 00:32:02,154
ST. LUCIE COUNTY'S

1148
00:32:02,154 --> 00:32:03,922
RESILIENCE STEERING COMMITTEE,

1149
00:32:03,922 --> 00:32:04,856
WHICH GUIDED THE DEVELOPMENTS

1150
00:32:04,856 --> 00:32:06,024
OF THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY

1151
00:32:06,024 --> 00:32:07,225
REGIONAL VULNERABILITY

1152
00:32:07,225 --> 00:32:07,826
ASSESSMENT,

1153
00:32:07,826 --> 00:32:09,428
AND THE REGIONAL RESILIENCE

1154
00:32:09,428 --> 00:32:09,861
PLAN,

1155
00:32:09,861 --> 00:32:11,496
BOTH FUNDED THROUGH THE STATE

1156
00:32:11,496 --> 00:32:12,497
OF FLORIDA'S REGIONAL...

1157
00:32:12,497 --> 00:32:13,465
FLORIDA'S RESILIENT

1158
00:32:13,465 --> 00:32:14,466
FLORIDA PROGRAM

1159
00:32:14,466 --> 00:32:16,468
AND COMMUNITY BLOCK DEVELOPMENT

1160
00:32:16,468 --> 00:32:17,002
GRANT.

1161
00:32:17,002 --> 00:32:19,371
THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY REGIONAL

1162
00:32:19,371 --> 00:32:20,338
RESILIENCE COORDINATOR,

1163
00:32:20,338 --> 00:32:21,773
PRESENTED THE VULNERABILITY

1164
00:32:21,773 --> 00:32:22,274
ASSESSMENT,

1165
00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:24,876
DURING THE JULY 2024 MEETING

1166
00:32:24,876 --> 00:32:25,410
CYCLES.

1167
00:32:25,410 --> 00:32:26,711
THAT PRESENTATION DETAILED

1168
00:32:26,711 --> 00:32:28,446
THE EVALUATION OF CURRENT

1169
00:32:28,446 --> 00:32:29,681
AND FUTURE RISK

1170
00:32:29,681 --> 00:32:30,549
TO INFRASTRUCTURE,

1171
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:31,917
INCLUDING THE TRANSPORTATION

1172
00:32:31,917 --> 00:32:33,318
NETWORK FROM HAZARDS

1173
00:32:33,318 --> 00:32:35,287
SUCH AS FLOODING, SEA LEVEL

1174
00:32:35,287 --> 00:32:36,488
RISE, STORM SURGE,

1175
00:32:36,488 --> 00:32:38,256
AND EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS.

1176
00:32:38,256 --> 00:32:39,324
THE ASSESSMENT WAS ADOPTED

1177
00:32:39,324 --> 00:32:40,659
BY THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY

1178
00:32:40,659 --> 00:32:42,828
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

1179
00:32:42,828 --> 00:32:45,030
ON JUNE 3RD, 2025.

1180
00:32:45,030 --> 00:32:46,565
LAST MONTH, THE COUNTY'S

1181
00:32:46,565 --> 00:32:46,965
CONSULTANT

1182
00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:48,200
PROJECT MANAGERS WITH

1183
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,034
TETRA TECH,

1184
00:32:49,034 --> 00:32:50,435
REVIEWED THE REGIONAL

1185
00:32:50,435 --> 00:32:51,403
RESILIENCE PLAN

1186
00:32:51,403 --> 00:32:52,971
WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES.

1187
00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:54,539
AND TODAY WE HAVE GEORGIA VINTZ

1188
00:32:54,539 --> 00:32:55,340
WITH TETRA TECH,

1189
00:32:55,340 --> 00:32:56,942
WHOSE PRESENTATION WILL TAKE US 

1190
00:32:56,942 --> 00:32:57,909
THROUGH A REFRESHER

1191
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:59,711
OF THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT,

1192
00:32:59,711 --> 00:33:01,413
AND A SUMMARY OF THE REGIONAL

1193
00:33:01,413 --> 00:33:01,980
RESILIENCE PLAN,

1194
00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:03,315
WITH THE EMPHASIS ON

1195
00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:04,316
THE TRANSPORTATION ASSETS

1196
00:33:04,316 --> 00:33:06,985
IN THE TPO AREA FOR YOUR COMMENT

1197
00:33:06,985 --> 00:33:07,752
AND DISCUSSION.

1198
00:33:07,752 --> 00:33:11,857
GEORGIA?

1199
00:33:11,857 --> 00:33:12,757
>> THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

1200
00:33:12,757 --> 00:33:14,125
IT'S NICE TO BE HERE TODAY

1201
00:33:14,125 --> 00:33:15,060
WITH YOU THIS AFTERNOON.

1202
00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:17,762
I SEE A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES.

1203
00:33:17,762 --> 00:33:21,032
SO WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF PUBLIC

1204
00:33:21,032 --> 00:33:22,701
OUTREACH ON THIS PROJECT,

1205
00:33:22,701 --> 00:33:25,003
AND I WILL GO THROUGH...

1206
00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:27,372
HOW THAT APPLIES TO

1207
00:33:27,372 --> 00:33:28,573
TRANSPORTATION ASSETS

1208
00:33:28,573 --> 00:33:29,774
SPECIFICALLY TODAY.

1209
00:33:29,774 --> 00:33:32,410
I'LL GO OVER THE REGIONAL

1210
00:33:32,410 --> 00:33:33,478
VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT,

1211
00:33:33,478 --> 00:33:34,746
THE RESILIENCY PLAN,

1212
00:33:34,746 --> 00:33:36,047
AND JUST TALK ABOUT SOME

1213
00:33:36,047 --> 00:33:36,581
KEY TAKEAWAYS.

1214
00:33:36,581 --> 00:33:37,916
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

1215
00:33:37,916 --> 00:33:38,617
WHEN I'M DONE,

1216
00:33:38,617 --> 00:33:41,219
I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM.

1217
00:33:41,219 --> 00:33:43,188
SO, IF YOU RECALL, THE

1218
00:33:43,188 --> 00:33:43,989
VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT,

1219
00:33:43,989 --> 00:33:45,624
WAS A FLOODING ASSESSMENT

1220
00:33:45,624 --> 00:33:47,259
THAT WAS DONE COUNTYWIDE,

1221
00:33:47,259 --> 00:33:48,360
IN CONJUNCTION

1222
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,028
WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES.

1223
00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:52,998
WE LOOKED AT CURRENT CONDITIONS

1224
00:33:52,998 --> 00:33:55,400
2040, 2070, AND 2100.

1225
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,169
WE ALSO LOOKED AT COASTAL

1226
00:33:58,169 --> 00:33:59,838
EROSION, EXTREME HEAT,

1227
00:33:59,838 --> 00:34:02,173
DROUGHT, WILDFIRE, AND EXTREME

1228
00:34:02,173 --> 00:34:03,341
WIND EVENTS.

1229
00:34:03,341 --> 00:34:04,843
AND WE IDENTIFIED

1230
00:34:04,843 --> 00:34:05,877
VULNERABILITIES TO...

1231
00:34:05,877 --> 00:34:08,747
THE CRITICAL ASSETS THROUGHOUT

1232
00:34:08,747 --> 00:34:10,215
THE COMMUNITY.

1233
00:34:10,215 --> 00:34:13,852
THE REGIONAL RESILIENCY PLAN

1234
00:34:13,852 --> 00:34:14,786
IDENTIFIED...

1235
00:34:14,786 --> 00:34:17,222
ADAPTATION STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS

1236
00:34:17,222 --> 00:34:18,456
THOSE HAZARDS.

1237
00:34:18,456 --> 00:34:19,591
BOTH THE VULNERABILITY

1238
00:34:19,591 --> 00:34:21,159
ASSESSMENT AND THE RESILIENCY

1239
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:21,559
PLAN,

1240
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:23,828
WERE FUNDED BY GRANTS

1241
00:34:23,828 --> 00:34:26,097
THROUGH DEP AND CDBG-MIT.

1242
00:34:26,097 --> 00:34:29,901
AND THOSE ADAPTATION STRATEGIES

1243
00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:31,670
ARE FOCUSED TO REDUCE CURRENT

1244
00:34:31,670 --> 00:34:32,737
AND FUTURE HAZARDS,

1245
00:34:32,737 --> 00:34:34,839
PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY,

1246
00:34:34,839 --> 00:34:36,942
INFRASTRUCTURE, AND ECONOMIC

1247
00:34:36,942 --> 00:34:37,642
STABILITY.

1248
00:34:37,642 --> 00:34:39,277
IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.

1249
00:34:39,277 --> 00:34:40,278
WE HAD A STEERING COMMITTEE,

1250
00:34:40,278 --> 00:34:41,446
WITH MEMBERS FROM EACH

1251
00:34:41,446 --> 00:34:42,347
OF THE COMMUNITIES,

1252
00:34:42,347 --> 00:34:44,049
THE MUNICIPALITIES,

1253
00:34:44,049 --> 00:34:45,784
AND WE DID A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER

1254
00:34:45,784 --> 00:34:46,051
ENGAGEMENT,

1255
00:34:46,051 --> 00:34:47,385
NOT ONLY WITH THE COMMISSION

1256
00:34:47,385 --> 00:34:47,652
MEETINGS,

1257
00:34:47,652 --> 00:34:50,755
BUT ALSO AT OUTREACH EVENTS.

1258
00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:53,158
BUT THE INTENT IS REALLY TO LOOK

1259
00:34:53,158 --> 00:34:54,192
AT POLICY INTEGRATION,

1260
00:34:54,192 --> 00:34:55,794
COORDINATION, AND ADAPTIVE

1261
00:34:55,794 --> 00:34:56,328
MANAGEMENT

1262
00:34:56,328 --> 00:34:58,296
FOR LONG-TERM RESILIENCY

1263
00:34:58,296 --> 00:35:00,298
THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

1264
00:35:00,298 --> 00:35:01,433
SO, THE VULNERABILITY

1265
00:35:01,433 --> 00:35:03,001
ASSESSMENT, IF YOU RECALL,

1266
00:35:03,001 --> 00:35:05,870
WE DID A LOT OF EVALUATION...

1267
00:35:05,870 --> 00:35:08,440
OF STORM SURGE AND OTHER

1268
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,474
FLOODING HAZARDS.

1269
00:35:09,474 --> 00:35:11,076
THIS MAP SHOWS FORT PIERCE,

1270
00:35:11,076 --> 00:35:12,410
AND PORT ST. LUCIE,

1271
00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:14,212
SPECIFICALLY IN THE RESULTS

1272
00:35:14,212 --> 00:35:16,014
OF A CATEGORY 1

1273
00:35:16,014 --> 00:35:19,618
VERSUS CATEGORY 5 STORM.

1274
00:35:19,618 --> 00:35:21,786
WE LOOKED AT EXTREME

1275
00:35:21,786 --> 00:35:22,887
RAINFALL EVENTS,

1276
00:35:22,887 --> 00:35:24,623
AS I MENTIONED IN THE FUTURE

1277
00:35:24,623 --> 00:35:25,223
OF 2070,

1278
00:35:25,223 --> 00:35:26,891
AND WE INCLUDED IN

1279
00:35:26,891 --> 00:35:27,759
THOSE ANALYSES;

1280
00:35:27,759 --> 00:35:29,394
THE SEA LEVEL RISE  PROJECTIONS.

1281
00:35:29,394 --> 00:35:30,362
THOSE BOUNDARY CONDITIONS

1282
00:35:30,362 --> 00:35:32,030
CHANGE WHEN SEA LEVEL RISES

1283
00:35:32,030 --> 00:35:33,798
OR WE HAVE A STORM SURGE.

1284
00:35:33,798 --> 00:35:35,567
SO, THAT MEANS THE WATER

1285
00:35:35,567 --> 00:35:36,668
HAS MORE CHALLENGING...

1286
00:35:36,668 --> 00:35:38,003
MORE CHALLENGES GETTING OFF

1287
00:35:38,003 --> 00:35:38,703
THE LANDSCAPE

1288
00:35:38,703 --> 00:35:41,606
AND TO THE CANALS, AND OTHER

1289
00:35:41,606 --> 00:35:43,575
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE.

1290
00:35:43,575 --> 00:35:46,044
AND WE DID LOOK, DID COMPARISONS

1291
00:35:46,044 --> 00:35:46,878
BETWEEN NOW,

1292
00:35:46,878 --> 00:35:48,747
AND INTO THE FUTURE

1293
00:35:48,747 --> 00:35:50,181
THROUGH COMPOUND FLOODING,

1294
00:35:50,181 --> 00:35:51,750
WHICH INCLUDES ALL OF THOSE,

1295
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:53,018
THE EXTREME RAIN EVENTS,

1296
00:35:53,018 --> 00:35:56,254
THE CATEGORY 3 STORM SURGE,

1297
00:35:56,254 --> 00:36:00,425
AS WELL AS THE FUTURE RAINFALL

1298
00:36:00,425 --> 00:36:01,126
PROJECTIONS.

1299
00:36:01,126 --> 00:36:06,197
SO, THIS IS 2040 AND THEN 2070.

1300
00:36:06,197 --> 00:36:08,867
AND ALL OF THESE MAPS

1301
00:36:08,867 --> 00:36:10,468
ARE AVAILABLE ON

1302
00:36:10,468 --> 00:36:11,036
RESILIENTSTLUCIE.COM

1303
00:36:11,036 --> 00:36:11,970
I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT

1304
00:36:11,970 --> 00:36:13,138
AT THE END AS WELL.

1305
00:36:13,138 --> 00:36:14,806
WE OVERLAID THOSE FLOODING MAPS

1306
00:36:14,806 --> 00:36:16,241
WITH THE TRANSPORTATION

1307
00:36:16,241 --> 00:36:17,242
CRITICAL ASSETS,

1308
00:36:17,242 --> 00:36:19,444
AND THIS IS JUST A MAP

1309
00:36:19,444 --> 00:36:21,312
OF WHERE THOSE ENDED UP.

1310
00:36:21,312 --> 00:36:23,481
PRIORITY 1 BEING THE MOST

1311
00:36:23,481 --> 00:36:24,382
AT-RISK ASSETS,

1312
00:36:24,382 --> 00:36:26,551
AND THAT INCLUDES HELICOPTER

1313
00:36:26,551 --> 00:36:28,219
LANDING PADS, BRIDGES,

1314
00:36:28,219 --> 00:36:29,754
BOAT DOCK, RAMPS,

1315
00:36:29,754 --> 00:36:31,856
THE MARINA, FORT PIERCE,

1316
00:36:31,856 --> 00:36:35,627
AIRPORTS, THE PORT, AND OTHER

1317
00:36:35,627 --> 00:36:38,663
ROADS AND EVACUATION ROUTES.

1318
00:36:38,663 --> 00:36:40,532
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRIORITY 1

1319
00:36:40,532 --> 00:36:40,799
ASSETS,

1320
00:36:40,799 --> 00:36:43,034
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE HIGHEST

1321
00:36:43,034 --> 00:36:44,169
NUMBER ARE ROADS,

1322
00:36:44,169 --> 00:36:45,437
AND BRIDGES.

1323
00:36:45,437 --> 00:36:49,674
AND WE HAD A TOTAL OF

1324
00:36:49,674 --> 00:36:52,510
167 PRIORITY 1 ASSETS.

1325
00:36:52,510 --> 00:36:53,545
NOTEWORTHY ASSETS.

1326
00:36:53,545 --> 00:36:55,380
SO, WE DIDN'T JUST LOOK AT

1327
00:36:55,380 --> 00:36:56,014
COUNTY-OWNED ASSETS.

1328
00:36:56,014 --> 00:36:57,582
WE REALLY LOOKED AT ALL OF THE

1329
00:36:57,582 --> 00:36:58,983
ASSETS THAT WERE IN THE REGION,

1330
00:36:58,983 --> 00:37:01,119
NOTING THAT THERE ARE

1331
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:02,220
TRANSPORTATION ASSETS

1332
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:05,790
THAT ARE NOT OWNED BY THE COUNTY

1333
00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:07,358
OR THE MUNICIPALITIES.

1334
00:37:07,358 --> 00:37:08,993
THIS JUST ENCOURAGES

1335
00:37:08,993 --> 00:37:11,196
COORDINATION WITH THOSE ENTITIES

1336
00:37:11,196 --> 00:37:12,864
IN THE FUTURE.

1337
00:37:12,864 --> 00:37:15,133
WE LOOKED AT EVACUATION ROUTES,

1338
00:37:15,133 --> 00:37:17,469
ACCESS TO THE BARRIER ISLANDS,

1339
00:37:17,469 --> 00:37:19,504
KEY COMMUNITY CONNECTORS,

1340
00:37:19,504 --> 00:37:20,872
THE MARINA,

1341
00:37:20,872 --> 00:37:23,241
PUBLIC WATER ACCESSES,

1342
00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:24,843
AVIATION FACILITIES,

1343
00:37:24,843 --> 00:37:27,278
AND AS I MENTIONED,

1344
00:37:27,278 --> 00:37:29,147
THE BRIDGE INFRASTRUCTURE.

1345
00:37:29,147 --> 00:37:30,882
TETRA TECH ALSO PERFORMED

1346
00:37:30,882 --> 00:37:33,051
THE STORM WATER MASTER PLAN

1347
00:37:33,051 --> 00:37:34,586
FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY,

1348
00:37:34,586 --> 00:37:37,489
AND WE ALIGNED THE VULNERABILITY

1349
00:37:37,489 --> 00:37:38,089
ASSESSMENT,

1350
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:39,491
AND THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN

1351
00:37:39,491 --> 00:37:41,459
TO KIND OF DO A GUT CHECK

1352
00:37:41,459 --> 00:37:43,061
ON WHAT ASSETS REALLY CAME

1353
00:37:43,061 --> 00:37:44,062
TO THE TOP

1354
00:37:44,062 --> 00:37:46,131
THROUGH BOTH OF THOSE

1355
00:37:46,131 --> 00:37:46,664
EVALUATIONS.

1356
00:37:46,664 --> 00:37:48,466
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT MIDWAY ROAD

1357
00:37:48,466 --> 00:37:49,267
AND EDWARDS ROAD,

1358
00:37:49,267 --> 00:37:51,202
THOSE ARE PRIORITY 1.

1359
00:37:51,202 --> 00:37:53,071
AND WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF 2,

1360
00:37:53,071 --> 00:37:54,439
AND 3 PRIORITIES AS WELL.

1361
00:37:54,439 --> 00:37:56,174
IN THE FUTURE, THESE COULD BE

1362
00:37:56,174 --> 00:37:57,041
YOUR FOCUS AREAS,

1363
00:37:57,041 --> 00:38:02,914
FOR FUTURE FLOOD REDUCTION

1364
00:38:02,914 --> 00:38:04,382
PROJECTS.

1365
00:38:04,382 --> 00:38:06,618
THE REGIONAL RESILIENCY PLAN

1366
00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:09,020
DOES OUTLINE  ADAPTATION 

1367
00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:09,821
STRATEGIES,

1368
00:38:09,821 --> 00:38:11,790
GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE TO FORTIFY

1369
00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:14,292
AND ELEVATE AND RELOCATE ASSETS.

1370
00:38:14,292 --> 00:38:15,860
GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE

1371
00:38:15,860 --> 00:38:17,462
LIKE BIOSWALES,

1372
00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:19,197
COMMUNITY EDUCATION PROGRAMS,

1373
00:38:19,197 --> 00:38:21,032
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANNING,

1374
00:38:21,032 --> 00:38:25,436
AS WELL AS LAND USE CODE

1375
00:38:25,436 --> 00:38:26,938
AND GUIDELINES.

1376
00:38:26,938 --> 00:38:29,941
SO AGAIN, THE PLAN IS INTENDED

1377
00:38:29,941 --> 00:38:31,442
TO ENHANCE COUNTYWIDE

1378
00:38:31,442 --> 00:38:31,943
RESILIENCY.

1379
00:38:31,943 --> 00:38:34,646
IT DOES HAVE A PHASED ADAPTATION

1380
00:38:34,646 --> 00:38:35,113
APPROACH,

1381
00:38:35,113 --> 00:38:36,648
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS THAT

1382
00:38:36,648 --> 00:38:37,682
YOU CAN DO IMMEDIATELY.

1383
00:38:37,682 --> 00:38:38,716
THOSE THAT REQUIRE

1384
00:38:38,716 --> 00:38:39,450
SOME PLANNING,

1385
00:38:39,450 --> 00:38:41,085
AND THEN THOSE LONG-TERM

1386
00:38:41,085 --> 00:38:42,720
PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE MORE

1387
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:43,154
RESEARCH,

1388
00:38:43,154 --> 00:38:48,026
INVESTMENT, AND PHASING.

1389
00:38:48,026 --> 00:38:50,028
SPECIFIC TO TRANSPORTATION

1390
00:38:50,028 --> 00:38:52,764
ASSETS, WE LOOK TO,

1391
00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:55,166
YOU KNOW, REALLY EVALUATE

1392
00:38:55,166 --> 00:38:57,001
OPPORTUNITIES TO RETROFIT

1393
00:38:57,001 --> 00:38:58,236
CRITICAL ASSETS,

1394
00:38:58,236 --> 00:39:00,371
LOOKING FOR WIND-RESISTANT,

1395
00:39:00,371 --> 00:39:01,105
ENERGY-EFFICIENT,

1396
00:39:01,105 --> 00:39:03,508
AND BACKUP POWER FEATURES.

1397
00:39:03,508 --> 00:39:05,443
INCORPORATING RESILIENCY

1398
00:39:05,443 --> 00:39:06,444
CONSIDERATIONS

1399
00:39:06,444 --> 00:39:10,048
INTO FUTURE PLANNING AND DESIGN,

1400
00:39:10,048 --> 00:39:11,182
AND THEN POTENTIALLY

1401
00:39:11,182 --> 00:39:11,950
ESTABLISHING ROADWAY

1402
00:39:11,950 --> 00:39:12,717
DESIGN STANDARDS

1403
00:39:12,717 --> 00:39:15,019
THAT ACCOUNT FOR SEA LEVEL RISE,

1404
00:39:15,019 --> 00:39:16,654
EXTREME RAINFALL,

1405
00:39:16,654 --> 00:39:19,958
AND FUTURE CLIMATE CONDITIONS.

1406
00:39:19,958 --> 00:39:22,427
TO REDUCE FLOODING AND IMPROVING

1407
00:39:22,427 --> 00:39:23,428
SYSTEM RELIABILITY,

1408
00:39:23,428 --> 00:39:25,463
UPGRADES TO STORMWATER

1409
00:39:25,463 --> 00:39:26,164
INFRASTRUCTURE,

1410
00:39:26,164 --> 00:39:28,700
LOOKING AT HYBRID GREEN-GRAY

1411
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:29,367
SOLUTIONS,

1412
00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:31,703
UTILIZING PUBLIC OPEN SPACES

1413
00:39:31,703 --> 00:39:33,504
FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT,

1414
00:39:33,504 --> 00:39:35,006
ENHANCING DRAINAGE

1415
00:39:35,006 --> 00:39:35,773
INFRASTRUCTURE,

1416
00:39:35,773 --> 00:39:38,610
AND DEVELOPING FLOOD EARLY

1417
00:39:38,610 --> 00:39:40,745
WARNING SYSTEMS SPECIFIC

1418
00:39:40,745 --> 00:39:42,213
TO ROADWAYS.

1419
00:39:42,213 --> 00:39:44,549
AND TO SUPPORT LONG-TERM

1420
00:39:44,549 --> 00:39:45,750
TRANSPORTATION RESILIENCY,

1421
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:47,885
REALLY LOOKING AT ASSET

1422
00:39:47,885 --> 00:39:48,987
LIFECYCLE CONSIDERATIONS,

1423
00:39:48,987 --> 00:39:50,655
MAINTAINING AND EXPANDING

1424
00:39:50,655 --> 00:39:52,357
STRATEGIC LAND ACQUISITION,

1425
00:39:52,357 --> 00:39:55,159
FOR THOSE CORRIDORS AND NATURAL

1426
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:56,294
FLOOD BUFFERS,

1427
00:39:56,294 --> 00:39:58,563
CONDUCTING POLICY AND PLANNING

1428
00:39:58,563 --> 00:39:59,130
REVIEWS,

1429
00:39:59,130 --> 00:40:01,199
AND THEN INTEGRATING RESILIENCY

1430
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:02,734
INTO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT

1431
00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:03,268
PLANNING,

1432
00:40:03,268 --> 00:40:07,005
OR SPECIFICALLY TRANSPORTATION

1433
00:40:07,005 --> 00:40:08,273
ASSETS.

1434
00:40:08,273 --> 00:40:10,675
SO THE KEY TAKEAWAYS IS THAT,

1435
00:40:10,675 --> 00:40:12,577
THE PLAN PROVIDES A UNIFIED

1436
00:40:12,577 --> 00:40:14,479
STRATEGY FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY,

1437
00:40:14,479 --> 00:40:16,681
AND THE MUNICIPALITIES.

1438
00:40:16,681 --> 00:40:19,150
IT'S BUILT ON THE VULNERABILITY

1439
00:40:19,150 --> 00:40:19,651
ASSESSMENT

1440
00:40:19,651 --> 00:40:21,419
AND THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN,

1441
00:40:21,419 --> 00:40:23,821
TO EVALUATE FLOODING AND OTHER

1442
00:40:23,821 --> 00:40:24,822
NATURAL RESOURCES.

1443
00:40:24,822 --> 00:40:26,257
IT IDENTIFIES ACTIONABLE

1444
00:40:26,257 --> 00:40:27,725
SOLUTIONS AND STRATEGIES

1445
00:40:27,725 --> 00:40:29,661
TO PROTECT THE CRITICAL

1446
00:40:29,661 --> 00:40:30,161
INFRASTRUCTURE.

1447
00:40:30,161 --> 00:40:33,331
AND IT DOES ENCOURAGE CONTINUED

1448
00:40:33,331 --> 00:40:34,599
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

1449
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:36,901
THE PLAN IS A LONG-TERM ROADMAP,

1450
00:40:36,901 --> 00:40:39,604
AND IT IS DESIGNED TO EVOLVE

1451
00:40:39,604 --> 00:40:42,340
AND CHANGE AS THE AREA EVOLVES,

1452
00:40:42,340 --> 00:40:44,542
DATA CHANGES,

1453
00:40:44,542 --> 00:40:47,879
AND CONDITIONS CHANGE.

1454
00:40:47,879 --> 00:40:49,947
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY

1455
00:40:49,947 --> 00:40:50,315
QUESTIONS,

1456
00:40:50,315 --> 00:40:52,450
AND AGAIN MENTION THE

1457
00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:52,984
RESILIENCEALUCIE.COM.

1458
00:40:52,984 --> 00:40:55,019
THE WEBSITE HAS A LOT OF REALLY

1459
00:40:55,019 --> 00:40:55,620
GOOD INFORMATION.

1460
00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:57,655
>> QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

1461
00:40:57,655 --> 00:40:59,457
>> I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

1462
00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:01,526
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

1463
00:41:01,526 --> 00:41:04,329
AS CONSULTANTS, YOU DID A REALLY

1464
00:41:04,329 --> 00:41:05,296
GOOD JOB.

1465
00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:06,497
USUALLY WHEN I FEEL LIKE

1466
00:41:06,497 --> 00:41:07,465
SOMEWHERE ON THE BORDER,

1467
00:41:07,465 --> 00:41:08,633
I'M LIKE...

1468
00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:09,734
SO WHAT KIND OF OUTREACH

1469
00:41:09,734 --> 00:41:10,635
DID YOU GUYS DO

1470
00:41:10,635 --> 00:41:11,669
TO GET THIS INFORMATION?

1471
00:41:11,669 --> 00:41:12,203
BECAUSE I ALWAYS FELT

1472
00:41:12,203 --> 00:41:12,770
LIKE THERE'S A GAP,

1473
00:41:12,770 --> 00:41:13,771
AND I REALLY FEEL THAT

1474
00:41:13,771 --> 00:41:14,806
YOU WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND

1475
00:41:14,806 --> 00:41:17,175
TO REALLY GET A LOT OF DIFFERENT

1476
00:41:17,175 --> 00:41:18,876
POINTS OF VIEW ON THIS.

1477
00:41:18,876 --> 00:41:20,178
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE

1478
00:41:20,178 --> 00:41:21,145
A GREAT PLAN FOR US

1479
00:41:21,145 --> 00:41:22,113
TO BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY,

1480
00:41:22,113 --> 00:41:24,615
AND A TPO BE ABLE TO BRING

1481
00:41:24,615 --> 00:41:26,084
FORWARD FUTURE GRANT PROJECTS

1482
00:41:26,084 --> 00:41:27,752
BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE FIGHTING

1483
00:41:27,752 --> 00:41:28,453
FOR MONEY.

1484
00:41:28,453 --> 00:41:30,088
AND I THINK HAVING STUDIES LIKE

1485
00:41:30,088 --> 00:41:31,723
THIS IS REALLY GOING TO HELP

1486
00:41:31,723 --> 00:41:32,290
POSITION US

1487
00:41:32,290 --> 00:41:34,158
TO SAY WHY WE ARE PRIORITIZATION

1488
00:41:34,158 --> 00:41:35,126
OF THAT FUNDING

1489
00:41:35,126 --> 00:41:36,627
FOR STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDS,

1490
00:41:36,627 --> 00:41:37,562
BUT, GREAT JOB.

1491
00:41:37,562 --> 00:41:38,029
THANK YOU.

1492
00:41:38,029 --> 00:41:38,796
>> THANK YOU.

1493
00:41:38,796 --> 00:41:39,630
YEAH, AND IF I DIDN'T

1494
00:41:39,630 --> 00:41:39,997
MENTION THAT

1495
00:41:39,997 --> 00:41:41,399
VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT DOES

1496
00:41:41,399 --> 00:41:43,267
ALLOW YOU TO APPLY

1497
00:41:43,267 --> 00:41:44,936
FOR RESILIENT FLORIDA FUNDING 

1498
00:41:44,936 --> 00:41:46,604
FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS

1499
00:41:46,604 --> 00:41:48,005
WHICH IS A 50-50 COST SHARE.

1500
00:41:48,005 --> 00:41:48,973
>> THAT'S RIGHT.

1501
00:41:48,973 --> 00:41:50,274
>> COUNCILWOMAN MORGAN?

1502
00:41:50,274 --> 00:41:53,511
>> JUST A SILLY COMMENT.

1503
00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:54,645
I'M A NUMBERS PERSON.

1504
00:41:54,645 --> 00:41:57,915
ON PAGE 71 WHERE YOU LIST

1505
00:41:57,915 --> 00:42:00,084
THE PRIORITIZE CRITICAL ASSETS

1506
00:42:00,084 --> 00:42:00,651
TRANSPORTATION,

1507
00:42:00,651 --> 00:42:02,253
THE NUMBERS DON'T MATCH.

1508
00:42:02,253 --> 00:42:03,588
>> IS THE MATH WRONG?

1509
00:42:03,588 --> 00:42:05,256
[LAUGHTER]

1510
00:42:05,256 --> 00:42:06,124
I DIDN'T MAKE THIS.

1511
00:42:06,124 --> 00:42:07,992
>> WELL, UNLESS I'M LOOKING

1512
00:42:07,992 --> 00:42:09,127
AT IT INCORRECTLY.

1513
00:42:09,127 --> 00:42:12,263
THE FIRST FOUR ROWS, IT DOES,

1514
00:42:12,263 --> 00:42:14,399
AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT'S, I'M

1515
00:42:14,399 --> 00:42:15,500
LIKE, ALL RIGHT.

1516
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:17,635
SO WHERE'D YOU GET FIVE ROADS

1517
00:42:17,635 --> 00:42:18,002
TOTAL

1518
00:42:18,002 --> 00:42:21,506
WHEN THERE'S 553, 49 AND 118?

1519
00:42:21,506 --> 00:42:23,975
>> SO THEY WERE THEY WERE RANKED

1520
00:42:23,975 --> 00:42:25,043
IN DIFFERENT PRIORITIES,

1521
00:42:25,043 --> 00:42:26,744
SO THEY SHOULDN'T ADD UP

1522
00:42:26,744 --> 00:42:27,445
A CROSS.

1523
00:42:27,445 --> 00:42:28,980
THEY SHOULD ADD UP FROM

1524
00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:30,548
THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM.

1525
00:42:30,548 --> 00:42:32,583
>> YEAH, THAT'S HOW

1526
00:42:32,583 --> 00:42:34,118
I FIGURED IT.

1527
00:42:34,118 --> 00:42:38,256
>> THE FIRST FOUR DO.

1528
00:42:38,256 --> 00:42:40,491
IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME,

1529
00:42:40,491 --> 00:42:41,626
BUT THAT'S OKAY.

1530
00:42:41,626 --> 00:42:42,560
I'M ONLY ONE.

1531
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,828
>> YOU REALLY ONLY FOCUS

1532
00:42:43,828 --> 00:42:45,396
ON PRIORITY ONE, HOW ABOUT THAT?

1533
00:42:45,396 --> 00:42:46,330
>> OKAY.

1534
00:42:46,330 --> 00:42:47,432
>> [LAUGHTER]

1535
00:42:47,432 --> 00:42:48,433
THEY WERE THE HIGHEST RANKED.

1536
00:42:48,433 --> 00:42:49,367
WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH

1537
00:42:49,367 --> 00:42:50,101
THE STEERING COMMITTEE

1538
00:42:50,101 --> 00:42:53,004
DEVELOP A PRIORITIZATION MATRIX,

1539
00:42:53,004 --> 00:42:54,372
DID A WHOLE BUNCH

1540
00:42:54,372 --> 00:42:55,406
OF BEHIND-THE-SCENES THINGS,

1541
00:42:55,406 --> 00:42:56,808
AND POPPED OUT THE DATA.

1542
00:42:56,808 --> 00:42:58,576
>> I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THIS

1543
00:42:58,576 --> 00:42:59,577
AND I WAS LIKE,

1544
00:42:59,577 --> 00:43:00,344
IT DOESN'T MATTER.

1545
00:43:00,344 --> 00:43:01,612
>> I'M NOT GOOD AT MATH.

1546
00:43:01,612 --> 00:43:02,413
>> [LAUGHTER]

1547
00:43:02,413 --> 00:43:03,815
>> I MEAN SHE'S NOT WRONG BUT,

1548
00:43:03,815 --> 00:43:04,248
IT'S OKAY.

1549
00:43:04,248 --> 00:43:05,349
FOCUS ON SOMETHING ELSE.

1550
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:06,150
[LAUGHTER]

1551
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:07,485
>> YEAH.

1552
00:43:07,485 --> 00:43:08,753
>> I'M SURE SHE'S NOT WRONG.

1553
00:43:08,753 --> 00:43:10,288
>> THANKS.

1554
00:43:10,288 --> 00:43:12,523
>> OKAY, ANYBODY ELSE?

1555
00:43:12,523 --> 00:43:13,991
WELL, THIS WAS JUST A DISCUSSION

1556
00:43:13,991 --> 00:43:15,226
ITEM NOT AN ACTION ITEM,

1557
00:43:15,226 --> 00:43:17,195
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

1558
00:43:17,195 --> 00:43:18,463
IN FACT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE

1559
00:43:18,463 --> 00:43:19,597
FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN IT EITHER.

1560
00:43:19,597 --> 00:43:21,566
THAT'S HOW MUCH OUTREACH THAT

1561
00:43:21,566 --> 00:43:23,568
SHE'S DONE, SO THANK YOU.

1562
00:43:23,568 --> 00:43:24,402
>> WE APPRECIATE IT.

1563
00:43:24,402 --> 00:43:25,002
>> THANK YOU

1564
00:43:25,002 --> 00:43:26,070
SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

1565
00:43:26,070 --> 00:43:29,807
OKAY, COMMENTS FROM FDOT.

1566
00:43:29,807 --> 00:43:31,843
I KNOW THERE'S SOMEBODY HERE

1567
00:43:31,843 --> 00:43:33,511
FROM FDOT, NO COMMENTS?

1568
00:43:33,511 --> 00:43:35,379
>> NO COMMENTS ABOUT MY...

1569
00:43:35,379 --> 00:43:35,780
[INAUDIBLE]

1570
00:43:35,780 --> 00:43:38,883
>> NO COMMENTS, OKAY.

1571
00:43:38,883 --> 00:43:41,619
COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.

1572
00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:42,653
ANYONE?

1573
00:43:42,653 --> 00:43:44,021
>> NOW, YOU KNOW I'M GOING

1574
00:43:44,021 --> 00:43:44,722
TO SAY SOMETHING.

1575
00:43:44,722 --> 00:43:45,890
>> I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN.

1576
00:43:45,890 --> 00:43:46,724
YES, YES, YES.

1577
00:43:46,724 --> 00:43:47,425
>> THIS ISN'T YOUR LAST ONE IS

1578
00:43:47,425 --> 00:43:47,525
IT?

1579
00:43:47,525 --> 00:43:48,192
>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA

1580
00:43:48,192 --> 00:43:48,659
GET OUT OF HERE?

1581
00:43:48,659 --> 00:43:49,760
>> NO, I HAVE RECORD TIME.

1582
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,495
>> OKAY, I WAS GONNA SAY,

1583
00:43:50,495 --> 00:43:50,862
WAIT A MINUTE,

1584
00:43:50,862 --> 00:43:52,196
THIS ISN'T YOUR LAST ONE?

1585
00:43:52,196 --> 00:43:54,298
>> OH, NO, I HAVE ONE MORE

1586
00:43:54,298 --> 00:43:56,100
BUT I GOTTA KEEP ON GOING.

1587
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:58,135
YOU'RE GONNA MISS HEARING ABOUT

1588
00:43:58,135 --> 00:44:00,638
THE LIGHT AT JENKINS AND MIDWAY

1589
00:44:00,638 --> 00:44:03,274
AND WHEN THE ETA OF THE ROAD

1590
00:44:03,274 --> 00:44:04,041
BEING COMPLETE.

1591
00:44:04,041 --> 00:44:05,243
IT LOOKS GOOD.

1592
00:44:05,243 --> 00:44:06,611
IT'S CLOSE.

1593
00:44:06,611 --> 00:44:11,916
IT IS CLOSE BUT I'M STILL

1594
00:44:11,916 --> 00:44:15,486
GONNA BEG, CRY, YELL,

1595
00:44:15,486 --> 00:44:16,921
SCREAM ABOUT THE LIGHT

1596
00:44:16,921 --> 00:44:18,356
AT JENKINS AND MIDWAY.

1597
00:44:18,356 --> 00:44:20,458
AND I KNOW  YOU GAVE A COUPLE OF

1598
00:44:20,458 --> 00:44:22,059
MONTHS AGO AT THE LAST MEETING.

1599
00:44:22,059 --> 00:44:24,529
BUT I DO HAVE ANOTHER LIGHT

1600
00:44:24,529 --> 00:44:26,998
THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT.

1601
00:44:26,998 --> 00:44:29,867
CAN ANYONE GUESS?

1602
00:44:29,867 --> 00:44:31,502
COMMERCE AND GLAZE!

1603
00:44:31,502 --> 00:44:32,603
>> I KNEW SHE WAS GONNA SAY IT.

1604
00:44:32,603 --> 00:44:33,504
>> ME TOO.

1605
00:44:33,504 --> 00:44:37,008
>> IT IS, IT'S...

1606
00:44:37,008 --> 00:44:39,277
AND I KNOW I HAD CALLED,

1607
00:44:39,277 --> 00:44:42,179
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE

1608
00:44:42,179 --> 00:44:43,381
GOING AROUND,

1609
00:44:43,381 --> 00:44:44,749
AND AROUND AND AROUND,

1610
00:44:44,749 --> 00:44:45,850
AND I REMEMBER,

1611
00:44:45,850 --> 00:44:47,685
TO MY RECOLLECTION, LAST YEAR

1612
00:44:47,685 --> 00:44:50,621
WHEN GREENPOINT PAID IN FULL

1613
00:44:50,621 --> 00:44:54,759
FOR THE TRAFFIC LIGHT TO PUT UP

1614
00:44:54,759 --> 00:44:56,194
AND IT WAS APPROVED TO GO AHEAD

1615
00:44:56,194 --> 00:44:57,261
AND DO THE SPAN WIRE,

1616
00:44:57,261 --> 00:44:58,930
NOT THE MAST ARMS,

1617
00:44:58,930 --> 00:45:00,398
AND THAT IT WOULD BE BLINKING

1618
00:45:00,398 --> 00:45:01,132
FOR 30 DAYS,

1619
00:45:01,132 --> 00:45:03,834
BUT WOULD BE ACTIVATED AS

1620
00:45:03,834 --> 00:45:06,571
OF DECEMBER 31ST OF 2025,

1621
00:45:06,571 --> 00:45:10,408
THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

1622
00:45:10,408 --> 00:45:13,044
AND THE REASON IT DIDN'T HAPPEN

1623
00:45:13,044 --> 00:45:15,713
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND I,

1624
00:45:15,713 --> 00:45:19,317
FEC, BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE

1625
00:45:19,317 --> 00:45:19,917
PREEMPTION,

1626
00:45:19,917 --> 00:45:21,852
BECAUSE THE TRACK IS

1627
00:45:21,852 --> 00:45:22,820
RIGHT THERE.

1628
00:45:22,820 --> 00:45:25,856
THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS

1629
00:45:25,856 --> 00:45:27,892
ADDITIONAL ACCIDENTS.

1630
00:45:27,892 --> 00:45:29,994
MY QUESTION IS HOW MANY LIVES

1631
00:45:29,994 --> 00:45:31,796
DO WE HAVE TO LOSE

1632
00:45:31,796 --> 00:45:34,365
BEFORE THIS LIGHT GETS

1633
00:45:34,365 --> 00:45:35,032
ACTIVATED?

1634
00:45:35,032 --> 00:45:36,567
SO I'M JUST GONNA PUT IT

1635
00:45:36,567 --> 00:45:37,101
OUT THERE,

1636
00:45:37,101 --> 00:45:38,502
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING,

1637
00:45:38,502 --> 00:45:40,838
AND PLEASE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY

1638
00:45:40,838 --> 00:45:41,639
OTHER INFORMATION

1639
00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:43,975
THAT THE DEVELOPER GREENPOINT,

1640
00:45:43,975 --> 00:45:45,142
OF COURSE,

1641
00:45:45,142 --> 00:45:47,778
PAID FOR THE LIGHT IN FULL,

1642
00:45:47,778 --> 00:45:50,314
NOW IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT AROUND

1643
00:45:50,314 --> 00:45:52,049
600,000 FOR THE PREEMPTION,

1644
00:45:52,049 --> 00:45:53,818
FOR THE RAILROAD, FOR FEC,

1645
00:45:53,818 --> 00:45:57,922
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA

1646
00:45:57,922 --> 00:45:59,590
DO IT.

1647
00:45:59,590 --> 00:46:01,058
THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE

1648
00:46:01,058 --> 00:46:01,959
IS THAT GREENPOINT

1649
00:46:01,959 --> 00:46:05,830
HAS OFFERED TO PAY A THIRD.

1650
00:46:05,830 --> 00:46:08,432
THE CITY, I BELIEVE, IS WORKING

1651
00:46:08,432 --> 00:46:10,201
ON DOING A THIRD,

1652
00:46:10,201 --> 00:46:11,836
AND THEN ASKING THE COUNTY

1653
00:46:11,836 --> 00:46:13,170
TO DO A THIRD,

1654
00:46:13,170 --> 00:46:15,873
TO GET THIS LIGHT ACTIVATED

1655
00:46:15,873 --> 00:46:16,974
AND DONE.

1656
00:46:16,974 --> 00:46:20,344
WAY TO CUT OFF IS A COUNTY ROAD.

1657
00:46:20,344 --> 00:46:22,380
I KNOW IT'S AT THE INTERSECTION

1658
00:46:22,380 --> 00:46:23,414
OF THE DEVELOPER

1659
00:46:23,414 --> 00:46:24,815
AND THE CITY ROAD,

1660
00:46:24,815 --> 00:46:25,950
BUT IF WE COULD ALL

1661
00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:26,417
COME TOGETHER,

1662
00:46:26,417 --> 00:46:28,285
AND JUST KIND OF MOVE FORWARD

1663
00:46:28,285 --> 00:46:28,919
AND SAY,

1664
00:46:28,919 --> 00:46:30,087
YES, LET'S DO THIS,

1665
00:46:30,087 --> 00:46:30,988
IT'S A THIRD.

1666
00:46:30,988 --> 00:46:32,890
WE'RE LOOKING AT LESS THAN

1667
00:46:32,890 --> 00:46:35,192
$200,000 TO GET THIS LIGHT DONE.

1668
00:46:35,192 --> 00:46:38,696
BECAUSE FEC IS NOT GONNA DO IT.

1669
00:46:38,696 --> 00:46:40,598
AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE...

1670
00:46:40,598 --> 00:46:41,632
I'VE ALREADY KNOWN

1671
00:46:41,632 --> 00:46:42,333
SEVERAL PEOPLE

1672
00:46:42,333 --> 00:46:44,969
THAT HAVE BEEN IN ACCIDENTS

1673
00:46:44,969 --> 00:46:47,104
PERSONALLY AT THAT INTERSECTION.

1674
00:46:47,104 --> 00:46:49,106
LUCKILY, THEY WERE INJURED

1675
00:46:49,106 --> 00:46:50,641
AND NOT KILLED,

1676
00:46:50,641 --> 00:46:53,277
BUT THERE HAVE BEEN LOST LIVES

1677
00:46:53,277 --> 00:46:54,612
AT THIS INTERSECTION.

1678
00:46:54,612 --> 00:46:56,714
AND IT'S CRITICAL SO, TA-DA,

1679
00:46:56,714 --> 00:46:59,250
AND I'LL SHUT UP UNTIL OCTOBER.

1680
00:46:59,250 --> 00:47:00,284
>> DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION

1681
00:47:00,284 --> 00:47:00,985
ON THAT, MR. BUCHWALD?

1682
00:47:00,985 --> 00:47:02,520
>> OH NO, ALLOW ME.

1683
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,221
>> OKAY, COMMISSIONER FOWLER.

1684
00:47:04,221 --> 00:47:05,256
>> NO, YOU KNOW WHAT, LIAM,

1685
00:47:05,256 --> 00:47:05,956
YOU JUST TOOK OFF.

1686
00:47:05,956 --> 00:47:07,224
[LAUGHTER]

1687
00:47:07,224 --> 00:47:13,064
SO, YES, LET'S GO BACK TO...

1688
00:47:13,064 --> 00:47:15,533
THIS LIGHT HAS TO GO UP,

1689
00:47:15,533 --> 00:47:18,536
BECAUSE OF THE IMPACTS

1690
00:47:18,536 --> 00:47:20,805
OF WILDER'S DEVELOPMENT.

1691
00:47:20,805 --> 00:47:21,739
OKAY?

1692
00:47:21,739 --> 00:47:22,740
NOTHING TO COUNTY, I AGREE,

1693
00:47:22,740 --> 00:47:23,541
IT IS COUNTY ROAD,

1694
00:47:23,541 --> 00:47:26,143
BUT WE DIDN'T APPROVE THAT

1695
00:47:26,143 --> 00:47:27,712
BUILDING THAT IS...

1696
00:47:27,712 --> 00:47:30,047
THAT IS THAT LIGHT IS BEING

1697
00:47:30,047 --> 00:47:31,215
TRIGGERED BECAUSE OF

1698
00:47:31,215 --> 00:47:32,016
THAT DEVELOPMENT.

1699
00:47:32,016 --> 00:47:34,118
NOW, I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS

1700
00:47:34,118 --> 00:47:36,220
A VERY LONG NEGOTIATION TIME

1701
00:47:36,220 --> 00:47:37,621
BETWEEN PORT ST. LUCIE

1702
00:47:37,621 --> 00:47:38,355
AND GREENPOINT

1703
00:47:38,355 --> 00:47:39,957
BECAUSE WHEN I ACTUALLY CALLED

1704
00:47:39,957 --> 00:47:41,592
AUSTIN LAST YEAR TO GET

1705
00:47:41,592 --> 00:47:42,927
AN UPDATE TO SEE

1706
00:47:42,927 --> 00:47:46,097
WHAT WAS TAKING SO LONG,

1707
00:47:46,097 --> 00:47:47,998
AGAIN, HE SHARED THAT

1708
00:47:47,998 --> 00:47:49,900
NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE CITY

1709
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:51,335
AND THEM HAD

1710
00:47:51,335 --> 00:47:52,837
TAKEN QUITE SOME TIME,

1711
00:47:52,837 --> 00:47:54,371
HOWEVER, THEY HAD AGREED

1712
00:47:54,371 --> 00:47:55,906
TO THE SPAN WIRE,

1713
00:47:55,906 --> 00:47:59,243
AND QUOTE, IT WAS GONNA BE UP

1714
00:47:59,243 --> 00:48:00,211
BY DECEMBER,

1715
00:48:00,211 --> 00:48:01,479
BLINKING AND OPERATIONAL

1716
00:48:01,479 --> 00:48:03,614
BY THE END OF JANUARY.

1717
00:48:03,614 --> 00:48:05,082
THAT WAS WHAT AUSTIN

1718
00:48:05,082 --> 00:48:06,183
HAD GIVEN ME.

1719
00:48:06,183 --> 00:48:11,922
SO FAST FORWARD.

1720
00:48:11,922 --> 00:48:14,492
NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, THEY ARE

1721
00:48:14,492 --> 00:48:16,360
SAYING THAT PORT ST. LUCIE

1722
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,229
DID NOT PUT IN THE AGREE...

1723
00:48:18,229 --> 00:48:19,663
DID NOT STIPULATE THAT

1724
00:48:19,663 --> 00:48:21,499
THEY HAD TO PAY THAT.

1725
00:48:21,499 --> 00:48:23,000
WHICH MAKES NO SENSE BECAUSE

1726
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:23,901
IF YOU STIPULATED

1727
00:48:23,901 --> 00:48:24,935
THEY NEEDED TO PUT IN A LIGHT

1728
00:48:24,935 --> 00:48:25,703
THAT MEANS THAT THAT IS

1729
00:48:25,703 --> 00:48:27,238
EVERY COST TO DO

1730
00:48:27,238 --> 00:48:28,406
WITH THAT LIGHT;

1731
00:48:28,406 --> 00:48:30,207
EVERY BOLT, EVERY SCREW, ALL

1732
00:48:30,207 --> 00:48:32,777
THE LABOR TO PUT UP THAT LIGHT.

1733
00:48:32,777 --> 00:48:35,980
YES, FEC IS CHARGING $542,000 TO

1734
00:48:35,980 --> 00:48:39,183
TIE THAT LIGHT IN FOR PREEMPTION

1735
00:48:39,183 --> 00:48:41,786
THAT LIGHT NEVER EXISTED.

1736
00:48:41,786 --> 00:48:43,788
AND THEY WILL NOT EVEN PUT

1737
00:48:43,788 --> 00:48:45,489
THE WORK IN THE QUEUE

1738
00:48:45,489 --> 00:48:47,992
UNTIL THAT IS PAID.

1739
00:48:47,992 --> 00:48:50,127
SO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST

1740
00:48:50,127 --> 00:48:51,061
OF THE COMMISSIONERS,

1741
00:48:51,061 --> 00:48:53,798
BUT MY ISSUE, WHAT I TOLD

1742
00:48:53,798 --> 00:48:54,732
GEORGE IS

1743
00:48:54,732 --> 00:48:55,966
I HAVE NO PROBLEM FRONTING

1744
00:48:55,966 --> 00:48:56,467
THE MONEY

1745
00:48:56,467 --> 00:48:58,936
BUT I WILL BE DARNED IF US

1746
00:48:58,936 --> 00:48:59,670
EXISTING TAXPAYERS

1747
00:48:59,670 --> 00:49:00,871
ARE GONNA PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT

1748
00:49:00,871 --> 00:49:02,306
A DEVELOPER SHOULD

1749
00:49:02,306 --> 00:49:03,741
BE PAYING FOR.

1750
00:49:03,741 --> 00:49:06,076
AND THAT'S JUST IN MY COMMAND.

1751
00:49:06,076 --> 00:49:07,278
I HAVE GONE BACK

1752
00:49:07,278 --> 00:49:08,179
AND ASKED GEORGE

1753
00:49:08,179 --> 00:49:10,114
IF IMPACT FEES COULD BE USED

1754
00:49:10,114 --> 00:49:10,781
FOR IT,

1755
00:49:10,781 --> 00:49:13,117
AND THEY ARE LOOKING INTO THAT.

1756
00:49:13,117 --> 00:49:16,821
BUT IT'S JUST...

1757
00:49:16,821 --> 00:49:18,322
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT A

1758
00:49:18,322 --> 00:49:19,824
DEVELOPER SHOULD BE PAYING FOR,

1759
00:49:19,824 --> 00:49:21,559
AND NOW FOR SOME REASON,

1760
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:23,494
CITY AND COUNTY IS BEING

1761
00:49:23,494 --> 00:49:24,695
ASKED TO SUPPLEMENT

1762
00:49:24,695 --> 00:49:26,597
WHAT THEY SHOULD BE PAYING.

1763
00:49:26,597 --> 00:49:28,399
SO GEORGE IS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED

1764
00:49:28,399 --> 00:49:30,601
TO BE WHEN I LEAVE HERE,

1765
00:49:30,601 --> 00:49:32,236
WE'VE GOT ABOUT FIVE THINGS

1766
00:49:32,236 --> 00:49:33,337
HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE CIRCLING

1767
00:49:33,337 --> 00:49:34,271
BACK TO ME ON,

1768
00:49:34,271 --> 00:49:35,673
AND THAT IS ONE OF THEM.

1769
00:49:35,673 --> 00:49:36,473
>> MAY I ASK A QUESTION?

1770
00:49:36,473 --> 00:49:37,908
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW

1771
00:49:37,908 --> 00:49:38,342
THE ANSWER.

1772
00:49:38,342 --> 00:49:39,343
WHEN DID THE PREEMPTION

1773
00:49:39,343 --> 00:49:40,144
GO IN THROUGH?

1774
00:49:40,144 --> 00:49:42,079
LIKE WHEN DID THEY ACTUALLY

1775
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:43,247
CREATE THIS PREEMPTION

1776
00:49:43,247 --> 00:49:44,949
FOR THE REQUIREMENT

1777
00:49:44,949 --> 00:49:47,284
OF THIS PARTICULAR LIGHT?

1778
00:49:47,284 --> 00:49:49,086
LIKE, WE JUST RECENTLY HAD

1779
00:49:49,086 --> 00:49:50,154
THE PREEMPTION OF

1780
00:49:50,154 --> 00:49:51,255
FOR THE FIRE,

1781
00:49:51,255 --> 00:49:52,923
FOR THE FIRE AND AMBULATORY

1782
00:49:52,923 --> 00:49:53,290
SERVICES.

1783
00:49:53,290 --> 00:49:54,992
WHEN WAS THAT PREEMPTION

1784
00:49:54,992 --> 00:49:55,426
CREATED?

1785
00:49:55,426 --> 00:49:57,661
ANYBODY KNOW?

1786
00:49:57,661 --> 00:49:58,896
>> THE FEC?

1787
00:49:58,896 --> 00:49:59,463
>> THE FEC.

1788
00:49:59,463 --> 00:50:00,464
>> YEAH, BUT HOW LONG

1789
00:50:00,464 --> 00:50:00,865
WAS IT...

1790
00:50:00,865 --> 00:50:01,665
>> JUST THE BEGINNING OF TIME.

1791
00:50:01,665 --> 00:50:02,366
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE

1792
00:50:02,366 --> 00:50:02,900
BECAUSE IT COULD BE SOMETHING

1793
00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:03,234
NEW THAT'S WHY

1794
00:50:03,234 --> 00:50:04,668
I'M ASKING IT COULD BE

1795
00:50:04,668 --> 00:50:05,269
SOMETHING NEW.

1796
00:50:05,269 --> 00:50:06,136
>> NO, IT'S BEEN, I'M SURE

1797
00:50:06,136 --> 00:50:06,604
IT'S BEEN AWHILE

1798
00:50:06,604 --> 00:50:07,771
BECAUSE I'M THE MAIN LINE

1799
00:50:07,771 --> 00:50:08,272
FOR FEC.

1800
00:50:08,272 --> 00:50:09,874
BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS

1801
00:50:09,874 --> 00:50:11,175
THE LITTLE UTILIZED SPUR

1802
00:50:11,175 --> 00:50:12,543
THAT HASN'T HAD ANY

1803
00:50:12,543 --> 00:50:13,611
LIGHTS ON IT,

1804
00:50:13,611 --> 00:50:14,411
ESPECIALLY IN THAT SECTION

1805
00:50:14,411 --> 00:50:15,246
AS THEY COME ALONG.

1806
00:50:15,246 --> 00:50:18,315
SO FEC HASN'T HAD THE NEED

1807
00:50:18,315 --> 00:50:20,384
TO EXTEND THE PREEMPTION

1808
00:50:20,384 --> 00:50:22,353
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR IT UNTIL

1809
00:50:22,353 --> 00:50:24,355
IT'S ONLY BEING PROMPTED

1810
00:50:24,355 --> 00:50:25,923
AS SET BY THE DEVELOPMENT.

1811
00:50:25,923 --> 00:50:27,324
SO IT'S BEEN IN REQUIRED

1812
00:50:27,324 --> 00:50:27,925
BECAUSE OTHERWISE,

1813
00:50:27,925 --> 00:50:29,159
THAT'S THE MAIN FUNCTION

1814
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:30,427
OF THE LIGHT, ALSO,

1815
00:50:30,427 --> 00:50:32,763
IS FOR THE PREEMPTION SHOULD

1816
00:50:32,763 --> 00:50:34,198
TRAIN BE COMING.

1817
00:50:34,198 --> 00:50:35,366
>> OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW

1818
00:50:35,366 --> 00:50:36,233
IF IT WAS SOMETHING NEW

1819
00:50:36,233 --> 00:50:37,368
OR SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN AROUND

1820
00:50:37,368 --> 00:50:38,068
A LONG TIME.

1821
00:50:38,068 --> 00:50:39,136
>> COMMISSIONER CLASBY.

1822
00:50:39,136 --> 00:50:40,638
>> PRETTY UNIQUE SITUATION

1823
00:50:40,638 --> 00:50:42,139
BECAUSE COMMISSIONER FOWLER AND

1824
00:50:42,139 --> 00:50:43,374
I, HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TALK

1825
00:50:43,374 --> 00:50:44,208
ABOUT THIS AT ALL

1826
00:50:44,208 --> 00:50:45,609
BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW,

1827
00:50:45,609 --> 00:50:46,343
VARIOUS WALLS.

1828
00:50:46,343 --> 00:50:47,978
BUT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT

1829
00:50:47,978 --> 00:50:49,380
AND IT'S ON THE TOPIC

1830
00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:49,947
OF DISCUSSION,

1831
00:50:49,947 --> 00:50:52,850
I ALSO WAS, YOU KNOW,

1832
00:50:52,850 --> 00:50:54,051
I THINK MY OPINION,

1833
00:50:54,051 --> 00:50:54,952
DON'T SHOOT ME,

1834
00:50:54,952 --> 00:50:56,554
BUT, I THINK IT'S AN OVERSIGHT

1835
00:50:56,554 --> 00:50:57,655
ON THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT.

1836
00:50:57,655 --> 00:50:59,590
LIKE SOMEHOW THIS SHOULD BE

1837
00:50:59,590 --> 00:51:01,191
IN A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT

1838
00:51:01,191 --> 00:51:02,459
THAT WE SHOULD LOOK TO LIKE

1839
00:51:02,459 --> 00:51:03,527
THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION OF THIS

1840
00:51:03,527 --> 00:51:04,695
BECAUSE, LIKE, HOW WAS

1841
00:51:04,695 --> 00:51:05,296
THIS NOT...

1842
00:51:05,296 --> 00:51:06,697
WHO PAYS FOR WHAT LIKE

1843
00:51:06,697 --> 00:51:07,831
SPELLED OUT IN THIS?

1844
00:51:07,831 --> 00:51:08,933
I KNOW YOU GUYS WITH

1845
00:51:08,933 --> 00:51:09,600
YOUR DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS

1846
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,634
ARE PRETTY TECHNICAL

1847
00:51:10,634 --> 00:51:12,069
AND VERY THOUGHT OUT,

1848
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:13,571
BUT, I MEAN, KIND OF JUST

1849
00:51:13,571 --> 00:51:14,338
LIKE LOOKING BACK,

1850
00:51:14,338 --> 00:51:15,272
WOULD THIS HAVE BEEN

1851
00:51:15,272 --> 00:51:15,739
SOMETHING THAT

1852
00:51:15,739 --> 00:51:17,608
COULD HAVE BEEN KIND OF SPELLED

1853
00:51:17,608 --> 00:51:18,542
OUT IN THERE,

1854
00:51:18,542 --> 00:51:19,810
THAT COULD HAVE PUT

1855
00:51:19,810 --> 00:51:21,078
THE BURDEN ON THEM

1856
00:51:21,078 --> 00:51:23,147
AT THE TIME BEFORE APPROVAL.

1857
00:51:23,147 --> 00:51:25,115
AND THEN ALSO JUST LIKE

1858
00:51:25,115 --> 00:51:26,717
COMMISSIONER FOWLER WAS SAYING,

1859
00:51:26,717 --> 00:51:28,519
I WAS ALSO INQUIRING ABOUT

1860
00:51:28,519 --> 00:51:29,253
IMPACT FEES.

1861
00:51:29,253 --> 00:51:30,220
WHENEVER I HAVE CONSULTANTS

1862
00:51:30,220 --> 00:51:30,955
IN MY OFFICE,

1863
00:51:30,955 --> 00:51:32,389
I OFTEN UTILIZE THEM FOR REASONS

1864
00:51:32,389 --> 00:51:33,390
THAT THEY'RE NOT THERE,

1865
00:51:33,390 --> 00:51:34,391
SO LIKE LEE DOBBINS

1866
00:51:34,391 --> 00:51:35,960
AND OTHER PEOPLE IN MY OFFICE,

1867
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:36,860
I BOUNCE IDEAS OFF THEM

1868
00:51:36,860 --> 00:51:37,594
AND I ASK THEM

1869
00:51:37,594 --> 00:51:39,096
IF THEY THOUGHT IMPACT FEES

1870
00:51:39,096 --> 00:51:40,631
COULD BE USED IN THIS

1871
00:51:40,631 --> 00:51:41,999
BECAUSE MY OPINION,

1872
00:51:41,999 --> 00:51:43,867
THAT'S NOT TAX DOLLARS,

1873
00:51:43,867 --> 00:51:44,969
THAT'S THE DEVELOPER'S DOLLARS

1874
00:51:44,969 --> 00:51:46,103
SITTING IN A POD.

1875
00:51:46,103 --> 00:51:48,806
IF IT COULD BE USED TO FOR THAT,

1876
00:51:48,806 --> 00:51:50,007
I WOULD BE MUCH MORE INCLINED

1877
00:51:50,007 --> 00:51:51,041
TO SIGNING OFF ON THAT

1878
00:51:51,041 --> 00:51:51,875
BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY

1879
00:51:51,875 --> 00:51:53,310
THEIR MONEY THEY PUT IN.

1880
00:51:53,310 --> 00:51:54,611
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE

1881
00:51:54,611 --> 00:51:55,679
SHOULD ALL DEFINITELY BE

1882
00:51:55,679 --> 00:51:56,213
LOOKING AT.

1883
00:51:56,213 --> 00:51:57,247
>> I HAVE A COUPLE STAFF MEMBERS

1884
00:51:57,247 --> 00:51:57,414
HERE,

1885
00:51:57,414 --> 00:51:58,282
I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNTY DOES.

1886
00:51:58,282 --> 00:51:59,483
DOES ANYBODY ON STAFF HAVE ANY

1887
00:51:59,483 --> 00:52:00,117
INFORMATION ON THIS?

1888
00:52:00,117 --> 00:52:01,418
>> I MEAN, TECHNICALLY, IN FACT,

1889
00:52:01,418 --> 00:52:02,319
THESE ARE FOR CAPACITY.

1890
00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:04,655
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CAPACITY.

1891
00:52:04,655 --> 00:52:05,622
>> THE LIGHT WASN'T THERE.

1892
00:52:05,622 --> 00:52:07,424
>> IT'S A NEW LIFE BUT

1893
00:52:07,424 --> 00:52:08,359
IT'S NOT CAPACITY.

1894
00:52:08,359 --> 00:52:09,793
>> YEAH, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

1895
00:52:09,793 --> 00:52:11,395
>> WITHOUT THAT, YOU CAN'T

1896
00:52:11,395 --> 00:52:12,062
HAVE CAPACITY.

1897
00:52:12,062 --> 00:52:13,897
>> YEAH, BUT I THINK IT'S PRETTY

1898
00:52:13,897 --> 00:52:15,232
SPECIFIC WE HAVE MOBILITY FEES

1899
00:52:15,232 --> 00:52:18,002
SO WE MAY HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY.

1900
00:52:18,002 --> 00:52:19,670
MOBILITY FEES MAY ALLOW YOU

1901
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:20,371
THE FLEXIBILITY,

1902
00:52:20,371 --> 00:52:21,505
BUT THE COUNTY DOESN'T

1903
00:52:21,505 --> 00:52:22,639
HAVE MOBILITY FEES, SO.

1904
00:52:22,639 --> 00:52:23,741
>> MADAM CHAIR.

1905
00:52:23,741 --> 00:52:24,475
>> YEAH.

1906
00:52:24,475 --> 00:52:26,110
>> WE HAVE STAFF HERE.

1907
00:52:26,110 --> 00:52:28,412
>> YES, I WAS GOING TO ASK,

1908
00:52:28,412 --> 00:52:30,914
DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES?

1909
00:52:30,914 --> 00:52:32,916
>> KEVIN, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING?

1910
00:52:32,916 --> 00:52:33,984
>> I HOPE SO.

1911
00:52:33,984 --> 00:52:35,519
>> GOOD AFTERNOON,

1912
00:52:35,519 --> 00:52:38,088
CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE.

1913
00:52:38,088 --> 00:52:40,090
THE UPDATE IS I DO KNOW

1914
00:52:40,090 --> 00:52:41,792
THE CITY MANAGER HAS DISCUSSED

1915
00:52:41,792 --> 00:52:43,694
WITH THE DEVELOPER AS WELL AS,

1916
00:52:43,694 --> 00:52:44,962
I BELIEVE, THE COUNTY

1917
00:52:44,962 --> 00:52:45,295
ADMINISTRATOR

1918
00:52:45,295 --> 00:52:47,765
AND THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS

1919
00:52:47,765 --> 00:52:49,033
OR CONSIDERATION

1920
00:52:49,033 --> 00:52:50,701
ON A POTENTIAL TRILATERAL

1921
00:52:50,701 --> 00:52:52,403
AGREEMENT ON A POTENTIAL

1922
00:52:52,403 --> 00:52:53,270
COST SHARE.

1923
00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:55,039
AS FAR AS THE UTILIZATION

1924
00:52:55,039 --> 00:52:56,840
OF FUNDS TO OFFSET THOSE,

1925
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,175
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE

1926
00:52:58,175 --> 00:52:59,843
THE SPECIFICS ON AS OF YET.

1927
00:52:59,843 --> 00:53:01,612
SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND.

1928
00:53:01,612 --> 00:53:02,813
>> THEY PAID FOR THE LIGHT,

1929
00:53:02,813 --> 00:53:03,614
BUT I DON'T KNOW...

1930
00:53:03,614 --> 00:53:04,548
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE

1931
00:53:04,548 --> 00:53:05,516
PREEMPTION PART CAME INTO IT

1932
00:53:05,516 --> 00:53:06,450
BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE

1933
00:53:06,450 --> 00:53:07,151
THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT

1934
00:53:07,151 --> 00:53:08,085
IN FRONT OF ME.

1935
00:53:08,085 --> 00:53:09,286
>> SO HONESTLY, I JUST THINK...

1936
00:53:09,286 --> 00:53:10,220
>> I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING

1937
00:53:10,220 --> 00:53:11,188
WE MAY CAME BACK AROUND.

1938
00:53:11,188 --> 00:53:11,488
>>  HUH?

1939
00:53:11,488 --> 00:53:12,389
>> I THINK IT NEEDS TO

1940
00:53:12,389 --> 00:53:12,990
COME BACK AROUND FOR,

1941
00:53:12,990 --> 00:53:15,125
I THINK LIKE THE CITY PROBABLY,

1942
00:53:15,125 --> 00:53:15,893
YOU GUYS, PROBABLY

1943
00:53:15,893 --> 00:53:16,694
YOU DISCUSS IT.

1944
00:53:16,694 --> 00:53:19,296
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY

1945
00:53:19,296 --> 00:53:20,431
COUNCIL DISCUSS IT.

1946
00:53:20,431 --> 00:53:21,999
YOU KNOW, MAYBE NEXT MONTH,

1947
00:53:21,999 --> 00:53:23,867
I KNOW WE HAVE BUSY AGENDAS

1948
00:53:23,867 --> 00:53:24,501
COMING UP,

1949
00:53:24,501 --> 00:53:26,437
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST AT

1950
00:53:26,437 --> 00:53:28,138
LEAST HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT

1951
00:53:28,138 --> 00:53:30,207
TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I DON'T.

1952
00:53:30,207 --> 00:53:31,842
THE AGREEMENT AND FROM

1953
00:53:31,842 --> 00:53:33,077
WHAT I'M LISTENING,

1954
00:53:33,077 --> 00:53:33,977
THE ONLY THING, LIKE,

1955
00:53:33,977 --> 00:53:35,145
WHAT I HEAR FROM YOU,

1956
00:53:35,145 --> 00:53:37,381
I KIND OF HAVE THE SAME  FEELING

1957
00:53:37,381 --> 00:53:38,982
AS WELL ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS.

1958
00:53:38,982 --> 00:53:40,684
SO BEFORE I GET AHEAD OF THAT,

1959
00:53:40,684 --> 00:53:41,452
ESPECIALLY ON RECORD,

1960
00:53:41,452 --> 00:53:43,153
I REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND

1961
00:53:43,153 --> 00:53:44,888
THE FULL SCOPE OF IT.

1962
00:53:44,888 --> 00:53:49,827
>> AND I KNOW THERE'S...

1963
00:53:49,827 --> 00:53:51,695
I KNOW THERE'S THE FULL SCOPE,

1964
00:53:51,695 --> 00:53:53,764
THE DEVELOPER DID PAY

1965
00:53:53,764 --> 00:53:55,833
FOR THE LIGHT 100%.

1966
00:53:55,833 --> 00:53:56,934
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND,

1967
00:53:56,934 --> 00:53:58,435
IT'S NOT IN THE DEVELOPER

1968
00:53:58,435 --> 00:53:58,769
AGREEMENT.

1969
00:53:58,769 --> 00:54:01,071
SO SHOULDA WOULDA COULDA,

1970
00:54:01,071 --> 00:54:03,373
WE CAN'T GO BACK.

1971
00:54:03,373 --> 00:54:06,844
WAS THE FEC AND AFTER,

1972
00:54:06,844 --> 00:54:10,848
AND THE WHOLE THING IS FOR LESS

1973
00:54:10,848 --> 00:54:12,583
THAN $200,000 EACH,

1974
00:54:12,583 --> 00:54:14,017
WHAT'S THE COST OF A LIFE?

1975
00:54:14,017 --> 00:54:15,686
HOW MANY DEATHS HAVE WE HAD?

1976
00:54:15,686 --> 00:54:18,555
SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT,

1977
00:54:18,555 --> 00:54:20,023
AND THANK YOU.

1978
00:54:20,023 --> 00:54:20,524
>> MAYOR?

1979
00:54:20,524 --> 00:54:21,792
>> SO THAT'S MY CONCERN

1980
00:54:21,792 --> 00:54:22,059
TOO.

1981
00:54:22,059 --> 00:54:24,061
I THINK I THINK THAT THE FEC,

1982
00:54:24,061 --> 00:54:25,229
I'M NOT 100% SURE,

1983
00:54:25,229 --> 00:54:26,964
BUT I THINK THAT THAT PART

1984
00:54:26,964 --> 00:54:28,165
OF IT CAME AFTERWARDS.

1985
00:54:28,165 --> 00:54:31,401
SO BECAUSE IN OUR AGREEMENTS,

1986
00:54:31,401 --> 00:54:32,970
WE ARE PRETTY STRINGENT

1987
00:54:32,970 --> 00:54:34,938
ON MAKING THEM PAY FOR

1988
00:54:34,938 --> 00:54:36,473
WHAT THEY NEED TO PAY FOR, AND

1989
00:54:36,473 --> 00:54:38,041
WE HOLD OUR FEET TO THE FIRE.

1990
00:54:38,041 --> 00:54:40,377
BUT I TEND TO AGREE

1991
00:54:40,377 --> 00:54:41,779
WITH COUNCILWOMAN MORGAN.

1992
00:54:41,779 --> 00:54:43,514
IF WE START HAVING MORE DEATHS

1993
00:54:43,514 --> 00:54:44,414
AT THAT INTERSECTION,

1994
00:54:44,414 --> 00:54:45,582
WE'RE GOING TO START GETTING

1995
00:54:45,582 --> 00:54:46,517
SCREAMED AT ABOUT, REALLY,

1996
00:54:46,517 --> 00:54:47,384
YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT

1997
00:54:47,384 --> 00:54:48,886
THE X AMOUNT OF MONEY?

1998
00:54:48,886 --> 00:54:50,454
WHAT IS THE COST OF A LIFE,

1999
00:54:50,454 --> 00:54:51,455
AND THEN OUR CITIZENS

2000
00:54:51,455 --> 00:54:52,256
WILL BE RIGHT.

2001
00:54:52,256 --> 00:54:53,790
SO I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING

2002
00:54:53,790 --> 00:54:55,592
TO ALL HAVE TO TAKE THAT ALL

2003
00:54:55,592 --> 00:54:56,126
INTO CONSIDERATION

2004
00:54:56,126 --> 00:54:58,562
AND LOOK AT THE BALANCE.

2005
00:54:58,562 --> 00:55:00,030
BECAUSE ANY DAY NOW,

2006
00:55:00,030 --> 00:55:01,899
THAT CAN CONTINUE TO HAPPEN,

2007
00:55:01,899 --> 00:55:04,234
AND WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKED TO

2008
00:55:04,234 --> 00:55:05,435
REPEATEDLY ABOUT THAT

2009
00:55:05,435 --> 00:55:05,836
INTERSECTION

2010
00:55:05,836 --> 00:55:08,105
AND ABOUT HOW DANGEROUS IT IS.

2011
00:55:08,105 --> 00:55:09,039
AND SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE

2012
00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:10,007
TO FIGURE IT OUT TOGETHER.

2013
00:55:10,007 --> 00:55:11,208
>> SO WHY HASN'T IT BEEN

2014
00:55:11,208 --> 00:55:11,441
ACTIVATED?

2015
00:55:11,441 --> 00:55:12,943
THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE.

2016
00:55:12,943 --> 00:55:15,112
[CROSSTALK]

2017
00:55:15,112 --> 00:55:16,647
>> CORRECT, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S

2018
00:55:16,647 --> 00:55:18,182
NOT INTEGRATED WITH THE RAIL.

2019
00:55:18,182 --> 00:55:19,416
WITH THE RAIL, SO IF THERE

2020
00:55:19,416 --> 00:55:20,484
WAS A TRAIN THAT CAME,

2021
00:55:20,484 --> 00:55:22,286
AND IT WAS DEACTIVATED,

2022
00:55:22,286 --> 00:55:23,420
THAT SYSTEM IS NOT TALKING

2023
00:55:23,420 --> 00:55:24,354
WITH THE LIGHT SYSTEM.

2024
00:55:24,354 --> 00:55:26,890
SO IT COULD CREATE A...

2025
00:55:26,890 --> 00:55:27,758
>> A GREEN LIGHT WHEN

2026
00:55:27,758 --> 00:55:28,492
THE TRAIN IS COMING.

2027
00:55:28,492 --> 00:55:29,526
>> YEAH, I KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA,

2028
00:55:29,526 --> 00:55:30,694
BECAUSE I KNOW THE SYSTEM

2029
00:55:30,694 --> 00:55:31,161
IS LIKE...

2030
00:55:31,161 --> 00:55:32,329
>> ...AND FEC WON'T PAY FOR IT.

2031
00:55:32,329 --> 00:55:33,330
>> YEAH, LIKE, WHEN YOU'RE

2032
00:55:33,330 --> 00:55:34,331
WAITING AT THE END OF

2033
00:55:34,331 --> 00:55:35,332
THE BRIDGE IN FORT PIERCE,

2034
00:55:35,332 --> 00:55:36,466
AND THERE'S TRAIN, AUTOMATICALLY

2035
00:55:36,466 --> 00:55:37,901
YOU GET A GREEN LIGHT,

2036
00:55:37,901 --> 00:55:38,969
AND THEN RED LIGHT

2037
00:55:38,969 --> 00:55:39,770
WHEN IT'S DOWN.

2038
00:55:39,770 --> 00:55:40,571
>> YEAH YEAH.

2039
00:55:40,571 --> 00:55:41,972
>> AND THAT'S ALL WE NEED IS

2040
00:55:41,972 --> 00:55:43,173
A CAR IMPACTING WITH A TRAIN

2041
00:55:43,173 --> 00:55:45,175
AT THAT LOCATION, THAT WOULD BE

2042
00:55:45,175 --> 00:55:46,176
A BIGGER DISASTER.

2043
00:55:46,176 --> 00:55:46,977
>> COMMISSIONER.

2044
00:55:46,977 --> 00:55:48,245
>> SO THAT PORT ST. LUCIE

2045
00:55:48,245 --> 00:55:49,580
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF

2046
00:55:49,580 --> 00:55:50,380
DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE

2047
00:55:50,380 --> 00:55:50,948
HAPPENED AROUND,

2048
00:55:50,948 --> 00:55:53,350
THE TRAIN TRACKS OR OTHER...

2049
00:55:53,350 --> 00:55:54,851
I MEAN, IS THAT WHY THIS

2050
00:55:54,851 --> 00:55:55,385
WAS MAYBE

2051
00:55:55,385 --> 00:55:57,788
KIND OF LIKE AN ANOMALY TYPE

2052
00:55:57,788 --> 00:55:58,622
OF SITUATION?

2053
00:55:58,622 --> 00:56:00,857
>> YEAH, NONE TO MY KNOWLEDGE,

2054
00:56:00,857 --> 00:56:02,159
AND IT IS A UNIQUE SET

2055
00:56:02,159 --> 00:56:02,626
OF CIRCUMSTANCES

2056
00:56:02,626 --> 00:56:04,795
WHERE YOU HAVE CITY ROADS

2057
00:56:04,795 --> 00:56:06,530
DISSECTING THE COUNTY ROAD.

2058
00:56:06,530 --> 00:56:08,298
IF YOU LOOK FURTHER

2059
00:56:08,298 --> 00:56:09,666
TO THE SOUTH,

2060
00:56:09,666 --> 00:56:10,534
FUTURE NORTH SOUTH DAY

2061
00:56:10,534 --> 00:56:11,001
OR SUNDANCE

2062
00:56:11,001 --> 00:56:12,736
WILL BE ANOTHER CROSSING THERE.

2063
00:56:12,736 --> 00:56:14,071
CERTAINLY LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN

2064
00:56:14,071 --> 00:56:15,005
LEARN FROM THIS EXPERIENCE,

2065
00:56:15,005 --> 00:56:16,840
AND IN PLACE, YOU KNOW,

2066
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,709
THE OTHER RAIL WALTON AREA,

2067
00:56:18,709 --> 00:56:20,210
BUT REALLY DON'T HAVE ANOTHER

2068
00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:21,411
SITUATION  WHERE THIS HAS

2069
00:56:21,411 --> 00:56:21,712
OCCURRED.

2070
00:56:21,712 --> 00:56:23,847
>> SOMETHING ELSE, DID SOME

2071
00:56:23,847 --> 00:56:24,715
TRAVELING RECENTLY,

2072
00:56:24,715 --> 00:56:26,316
AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S AREAS

2073
00:56:26,316 --> 00:56:27,284
THAT HAVE LIKE,

2074
00:56:27,284 --> 00:56:28,352
LITERALLY TEMPORARY TRAFFIC

2075
00:56:28,352 --> 00:56:30,187
SIGNALS THAT THEY JUST DEPLOY.

2076
00:56:30,187 --> 00:56:31,221
THEY'RE ON LIKE A TRAILER

2077
00:56:31,221 --> 00:56:32,489
AND THEN THEY GO OUT THERE,

2078
00:56:32,489 --> 00:56:33,757
AND THEY'RE PLACED

2079
00:56:33,757 --> 00:56:35,058
IN SEMI-PERMANENT STATUS,

2080
00:56:35,058 --> 00:56:36,627
AND THEY'RE OPERATIONAL WHILE

2081
00:56:36,627 --> 00:56:38,595
ALL THIS IS GOING ON,

2082
00:56:38,595 --> 00:56:40,364
OR IT CAN BE DEPLOYED IF ONE

2083
00:56:40,364 --> 00:56:41,131
IS BROKEN SOMEWHERE.

2084
00:56:41,131 --> 00:56:42,466
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT MAYBE

2085
00:56:42,466 --> 00:56:43,166
THAT'S SOMETHING  WORTH

2086
00:56:43,166 --> 00:56:44,368
MAKING A DEVELOPER PAY FOR

2087
00:56:44,368 --> 00:56:47,037
AND JUST HAVING ON ON INVENTORY

2088
00:56:47,037 --> 00:56:48,839
LIKE A ROADSIDE SIGN

2089
00:56:48,839 --> 00:56:50,841
BUT LIKE YOU CAN DEPLOY

2090
00:56:50,841 --> 00:56:52,075
A TRAFFIC SIGNAL...

2091
00:56:52,075 --> 00:56:53,777
>> WITHOUT PREEMPTION,

2092
00:56:53,777 --> 00:56:56,113
I THINK THAT'D BE INCREDIBLY

2093
00:56:56,113 --> 00:56:56,613
DANGEROUS

2094
00:56:56,613 --> 00:56:57,948
>> WELL, IT'S USED ALL OVER

2095
00:56:57,948 --> 00:56:58,415
THE STATE.

2096
00:56:58,415 --> 00:56:59,650
>> NOT WITH PREEMPTION THOUGH,

2097
00:56:59,650 --> 00:57:00,651
NECESSARILY UP AGAINST A TRUCK

2098
00:57:00,651 --> 00:57:01,485
THOUGH, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

2099
00:57:01,485 --> 00:57:02,753
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN

2100
00:57:02,753 --> 00:57:03,320
DO FOR THAT.

2101
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:04,588
>> SO IF I MAY, AND I'M SORRY.

2102
00:57:04,588 --> 00:57:05,522
I'VE MADE A RECORD,

2103
00:57:05,522 --> 00:57:06,023
KEVIN MATYJASZEK,

2104
00:57:06,023 --> 00:57:07,057
COMING AS SPECIAL ASSISTANT

2105
00:57:07,057 --> 00:57:08,091
TO THE CITY MANAGER

2106
00:57:08,091 --> 00:57:09,092
AND UTILITY SYSTEMS DIRECTOR

2107
00:57:09,092 --> 00:57:10,894
FOR THE CITY OF ST. PORT LUCIE.

2108
00:57:10,894 --> 00:57:12,429
SO, SORRY. I KIND OF GOT AHEAD

2109
00:57:12,429 --> 00:57:12,896
OF MYSELF.

2110
00:57:12,896 --> 00:57:13,764
>> THAT'S OKAY.

2111
00:57:13,764 --> 00:57:14,965
I THINK WE KNEW THAT BUT, YEAH.

2112
00:57:14,965 --> 00:57:17,901
>> WITH THE SPAN WIRE, YOU KNOW,

2113
00:57:17,901 --> 00:57:19,169
EVERYTHING IS THERE TECHNICALLY

2114
00:57:19,169 --> 00:57:20,137
THAT, YOU KNOW,

2115
00:57:20,137 --> 00:57:22,306
THOSE COULD BE PUT IN OPTION

2116
00:57:22,306 --> 00:57:22,673
OPERATION.

2117
00:57:22,673 --> 00:57:23,340
THAT'S AT LEAST

2118
00:57:23,340 --> 00:57:23,807
MY UNDERSTANDING,

2119
00:57:23,807 --> 00:57:24,975
BUT BECAUSE OF THE LACK

2120
00:57:24,975 --> 00:57:25,676
OF INTEGRATION BETWEEN

2121
00:57:25,676 --> 00:57:28,211
THE FEC SYSTEM THAT'S THERE.

2122
00:57:28,211 --> 00:57:29,746
BECAUSE THE CITY DOES HAVE TO

2123
00:57:29,746 --> 00:57:30,814
YOUR POINT MR. CLASBY

2124
00:57:30,814 --> 00:57:32,549
OR COMMISSIONER COSBY,

2125
00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:33,984
WE'VE UTILIZED THOSE

2126
00:57:33,984 --> 00:57:35,419
ON DISCOVERY UNTIL

2127
00:57:35,419 --> 00:57:37,220
WE GOT THOSE MAST ARMS THERE.

2128
00:57:37,220 --> 00:57:38,855
AND SO WE'VE EXPLORED SOME

2129
00:57:38,855 --> 00:57:40,490
OPTIONS WHAT WE CAN DO,

2130
00:57:40,490 --> 00:57:41,958
IT COMES DOWN TO

2131
00:57:41,958 --> 00:57:42,693
UNFORTUNATELY HERE,

2132
00:57:42,693 --> 00:57:44,161
IT'S THAT THE INTEGRATION

2133
00:57:44,161 --> 00:57:44,895
THAT'S NECESSARY,

2134
00:57:44,895 --> 00:57:47,764
AND AGAIN, HEARING A FEEDBACK

2135
00:57:47,764 --> 00:57:48,932
AND DIRECTION,

2136
00:57:48,932 --> 00:57:49,766
YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE'LL

2137
00:57:49,766 --> 00:57:50,867
SPEAK WITH THE CITY MANAGER

2138
00:57:50,867 --> 00:57:52,469
AND SEE HOW WE CAN'T

2139
00:57:52,469 --> 00:57:54,404
GET THIS OVER THE EDGE YET.

2140
00:57:54,404 --> 00:57:55,939
WE ARE AWARE OF THE INTERSECTION

2141
00:57:55,939 --> 00:57:57,107
AND I UNFORTUNATELY EVEN

2142
00:57:57,107 --> 00:57:58,608
IN THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS,

2143
00:57:58,608 --> 00:57:59,543
I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER

2144
00:57:59,543 --> 00:58:00,143
INCIDENT OUT THERE.

2145
00:58:00,143 --> 00:58:01,244
>> YEAH, THERE WAS.

2146
00:58:01,244 --> 00:58:03,613
>> AND, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA GET

2147
00:58:03,613 --> 00:58:05,015
TO SEE THIS THROUGH.

2148
00:58:05,015 --> 00:58:06,116
>> SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED

2149
00:58:06,116 --> 00:58:06,483
TO SEE

2150
00:58:06,483 --> 00:58:08,318
WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT

2151
00:58:08,318 --> 00:58:09,252
SAYS BECAUSE

2152
00:58:09,252 --> 00:58:11,822
DOES IT SPECIFICALLY

2153
00:58:11,822 --> 00:58:13,557
ELIMINATE PRE-EMPTIVE?

2154
00:58:13,557 --> 00:58:14,791
SO HOW IS THAT NOT PART

2155
00:58:14,791 --> 00:58:15,826
OF THE COST OF THIS?

2156
00:58:15,826 --> 00:58:19,329
I MEAN, UNLESS IT ADDRESSES

2157
00:58:19,329 --> 00:58:21,431
THE PRE-EMPTIVE COST,

2158
00:58:21,431 --> 00:58:23,300
SPECIFICALLY, I FEEL LIKE

2159
00:58:23,300 --> 00:58:24,267
IT'S INCLUDED.

2160
00:58:24,267 --> 00:58:25,402
>>  I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW I

2161
00:58:25,402 --> 00:58:26,203
WOULDN'T HAVE SAID SOMETHING

2162
00:58:26,203 --> 00:58:28,472
TO THE EFFECT OF ANY AND ALL

2163
00:58:28,472 --> 00:58:29,806
COSTS ASSOCIATED TO STATE

2164
00:58:29,806 --> 00:58:31,875
OR FEDERAL LANDS BECAUSE THIS IS

2165
00:58:31,875 --> 00:58:32,909
A FEDERAL ISSUE,

2166
00:58:32,909 --> 00:58:33,944
THIS IS NOT EVEN A STATE ISSUE

2167
00:58:33,944 --> 00:58:34,411
OR FEDERAL ISSUE.

2168
00:58:34,411 --> 00:58:35,112
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT

2169
00:58:35,112 --> 00:58:35,545
WOULDN'T BE COVERED

2170
00:58:35,545 --> 00:58:36,012
IN THE AGREEMENT.

2171
00:58:36,012 --> 00:58:37,013
THAT'S WHY I NEED TO LEARN MORE.

2172
00:58:37,013 --> 00:58:39,015
>> YEAH, AND I'M SURE DIDN'T SAY

2173
00:58:39,015 --> 00:58:39,916
EXCEPT FOR PRE-EMPTIVE,

2174
00:58:39,916 --> 00:58:41,051
YOU KNOW, COSTS

2175
00:58:41,051 --> 00:58:41,852
FOR IMPLEMENTATION.

2176
00:58:41,852 --> 00:58:42,652
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?

2177
00:58:42,652 --> 00:58:44,554
SO I FEEL LIKE THERE COULD BE,

2178
00:58:44,554 --> 00:58:45,689
IF I'M BEING HONEST,

2179
00:58:45,689 --> 00:58:47,224
THE CITY HAS INTERPRETED THINGS,

2180
00:58:47,224 --> 00:58:47,858
AND BEFORE...

2181
00:58:47,858 --> 00:58:49,092
>> IT COULD BE GREAT THOUGH TOO.

2182
00:58:49,092 --> 00:58:50,427
>> ...COULD WE NOT INTERPRET IT

2183
00:58:50,427 --> 00:58:51,328
THAT WAY AND HOLD

2184
00:58:51,328 --> 00:58:52,662
THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE?

2185
00:58:52,662 --> 00:58:54,531
>> IS IT WORTH LESS THAN

2186
00:58:54,531 --> 00:58:55,799
200,000 FOR A LIFE?

2187
00:58:55,799 --> 00:58:58,034
>> SO THERE'S A LOT OF MORE...

2188
00:58:58,034 --> 00:58:59,269
THERE'S A LOT MORE COMPLEXITY

2189
00:58:59,269 --> 00:59:00,537
TO IT THAN, THAN JUST...

2190
00:59:00,537 --> 00:59:02,406
THERE'S A DISPUTE BETWEEN

2191
00:59:02,406 --> 00:59:03,373
THE DEVELOPER.

2192
00:59:03,373 --> 00:59:04,241
MY UNDERSTANDING, I MET

2193
00:59:04,241 --> 00:59:04,908
WITH THEM TOO

2194
00:59:04,908 --> 00:59:06,043
DISPUTE BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER

2195
00:59:06,043 --> 00:59:06,910
AND THE FEC

2196
00:59:06,910 --> 00:59:08,612
AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE UPGRADED

2197
00:59:08,612 --> 00:59:09,179
AS WELL.

2198
00:59:09,179 --> 00:59:11,014
OF COURSE, FEC WANTS EVERYTHING

2199
00:59:11,014 --> 00:59:11,782
UPGRADED INCLUDING

2200
00:59:11,782 --> 00:59:13,417
THE ALUMINUM CABINET

2201
00:59:13,417 --> 00:59:14,551
HOLDING EVERYTHING

2202
00:59:14,551 --> 00:59:16,153
AND EVERYTHING INSIDE IT NOT

2203
00:59:16,153 --> 00:59:16,820
JUST PREEMPTION.

2204
00:59:16,820 --> 00:59:18,555
THAT'S WHY IT COSTS MORE AND

2205
00:59:18,555 --> 00:59:19,756
THEY'RE HOLDING THE CARDS.

2206
00:59:19,756 --> 00:59:21,625
THEY CAN REQUIRE THAT.

2207
00:59:21,625 --> 00:59:22,993
WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD

2208
00:59:22,993 --> 00:59:23,827
JUST COME IN

2209
00:59:23,827 --> 00:59:25,662
AND REPLACE LIKE ONE MODULE,

2210
00:59:25,662 --> 00:59:26,897
AND THEN WHENEVER THE WHOLE

2211
00:59:26,897 --> 00:59:27,397
THING'S REPLACED,

2212
00:59:27,397 --> 00:59:28,498
REPLACE IT AT THAT TIME THEY

2213
00:59:28,498 --> 00:59:29,433
WANT IT ALL DONE NOW.

2214
00:59:29,433 --> 00:59:29,900
>> RIGHT.

2215
00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:31,168
>> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING TOO.

2216
00:59:31,168 --> 00:59:31,701
>> YES.

2217
00:59:31,701 --> 00:59:33,069
>> SO IT'S NOT JUST

2218
00:59:33,069 --> 00:59:33,937
EVERYBODY'S SORT OF...

2219
00:59:33,937 --> 00:59:35,472
>> A WONDERFUL FEC AS WELL.

2220
00:59:35,472 --> 00:59:36,273
>> YES.

2221
00:59:36,273 --> 00:59:37,174
>> OKAY. I GOT YOU.

2222
00:59:37,174 --> 00:59:38,608
>> THERE'S A LOT OF BLAME GOING

2223
00:59:38,608 --> 00:59:39,676
OVER ON THE FEC SIDE

2224
00:59:39,676 --> 00:59:40,944
ACCORDING TO THE DEVELOPER AND

2225
00:59:40,944 --> 00:59:42,245
THE WAY THEY EXPLAINED IT

2226
00:59:42,245 --> 00:59:45,515
WAS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID TO ME.

2227
00:59:45,515 --> 00:59:47,083
>> IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST THAT

2228
00:59:47,083 --> 00:59:48,151
THEY'RE ABSORBING IT COSTS.

2229
00:59:48,151 --> 00:59:49,386
>> AND THEY GOT MORE MUSCLE

2230
00:59:49,386 --> 00:59:50,020
THAN WE DO.

2231
00:59:50,020 --> 00:59:51,588
>> WELL, THEY DO HOLD THE CARDS,

2232
00:59:51,588 --> 00:59:52,823
AND THEY'RE SO EASY TO WORK

2233
00:59:52,823 --> 00:59:53,056
WITH.

2234
00:59:53,056 --> 00:59:54,024
>> YEAH. 

2235
00:59:54,024 --> 00:59:56,059
>> BY THE WAY, MAM I ASK, HOW

2236
00:59:56,059 --> 00:59:57,327
MANY DEATHS HAVE WE HAD

2237
00:59:57,327 --> 00:59:57,861
OVER HERE?

2238
00:59:57,861 --> 00:59:59,629
>> MORE THAN ONE.

2239
00:59:59,629 --> 01:00:01,565
>> THERE'S AT LEAST TWO,

2240
01:00:01,565 --> 01:00:02,365
AT LEAST.

2241
01:00:02,365 --> 01:00:04,334
>> IS THERE ANYWAY WE CAN PUT

2242
01:00:04,334 --> 01:00:05,469
LIKE EMERGENCY TYPE, LIKE,

2243
01:00:05,469 --> 01:00:06,803
NOT EMERGENCY BUT LIKE

2244
01:00:06,803 --> 01:00:08,138
ALMOST LIKE A WARNING.

2245
01:00:08,138 --> 01:00:09,239
LIKE WHATEVER THE...

2246
01:00:09,239 --> 01:00:10,941
YEAH, WHATEVER THE ISSUE

2247
01:00:10,941 --> 01:00:12,676
THAT IS BEING CAUSED,

2248
01:00:12,676 --> 01:00:13,844
THE COLLISION POINTS,

2249
01:00:13,844 --> 01:00:15,712
IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, FLASHING

2250
01:00:15,712 --> 01:00:17,214
LIGHTS  OR SOMETHING THAT...

2251
01:00:17,214 --> 01:00:19,483
>> IT'S DRIVER BEHAVIOR.

2252
01:00:19,483 --> 01:00:20,584
>> BUT WHAT'S CAUSING THE...

2253
01:00:20,584 --> 01:00:22,252
WHAT'S CAUSING THE IMPACT?

2254
01:00:22,252 --> 01:00:23,687
>> DRIVER BEHAVIOR, WANTING

2255
01:00:23,687 --> 01:00:25,155
TO GET THERE FIRST.

2256
01:00:25,155 --> 01:00:26,323
>> PRIOR TO THE LIGHT GOING UP

2257
01:00:26,323 --> 01:00:27,023
WHEN IT WAS JUST...

2258
01:00:27,023 --> 01:00:28,191
WAS JUST THE STOP SIGN.

2259
01:00:28,191 --> 01:00:28,792
>> RIGHT, I REMEMBER

2260
01:00:28,792 --> 01:00:29,259
THE STOP SIGN.

2261
01:00:29,259 --> 01:00:31,061
>> THEY HAVE GREATLY REDUCED

2262
01:00:31,061 --> 01:00:33,230
SINCE IT'S BEEN UP AND FLASHING,

2263
01:00:33,230 --> 01:00:34,664
COZ I THINK IT PROMPTS PEOPLE

2264
01:00:34,664 --> 01:00:36,099
TO SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT,

2265
01:00:36,099 --> 01:00:37,434
COZ THEY'RE COMING UP TO

2266
01:00:37,434 --> 01:00:38,268
AN INTERSECTION WITH

2267
01:00:38,268 --> 01:00:39,102
A FLASHING LIGHT.

2268
01:00:39,102 --> 01:00:40,637
BUT YEAH, PRIOR TO THAT,

2269
01:00:40,637 --> 01:00:41,271
SAME THING.

2270
01:00:41,271 --> 01:00:43,206
THEY JUST WEREN'T STOPPING.

2271
01:00:43,206 --> 01:00:44,541
>> THEY'RE DOING 70, 75

2272
01:00:44,541 --> 01:00:45,342
ON GLADES CUT-OFF.

2273
01:00:45,342 --> 01:00:46,543
>> THEY'RE-THEY'RE PULLING OUT

2274
01:00:46,543 --> 01:00:47,444
IN FRONT OF

2275
01:00:47,444 --> 01:00:49,880
THE GLADES CUT-OFF TRAFFIC.

2276
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,281
YES, THEY'RE PULLING OUT.

2277
01:00:51,281 --> 01:00:52,415
>> GOING 70.

2278
01:00:52,415 --> 01:00:53,383
>> CLASBY JUST SAID

2279
01:00:53,383 --> 01:00:53,884
RUMBLE STRIPS.

2280
01:00:53,884 --> 01:00:55,819
HOW LONG AND HOW HARD WOULD

2281
01:00:55,819 --> 01:00:57,487
THAT BE TO PUT IN?

2282
01:00:57,487 --> 01:00:58,588
>> WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR THOSE?

2283
01:00:58,588 --> 01:00:59,756
>> BUT THAT'S A COST.

2284
01:00:59,756 --> 01:01:01,291
WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST FIND

2285
01:01:01,291 --> 01:01:02,325
THE SOLUTION, YOU KNOW?

2286
01:01:02,325 --> 01:01:03,126
>> YEAH.

2287
01:01:03,126 --> 01:01:04,160
>> I'M TRYNA FORCE IT.

2288
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:05,295
>> I MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT,

2289
01:01:05,295 --> 01:01:05,996
BUT IT'S LIKE,

2290
01:01:05,996 --> 01:01:07,097
THAT'S GONNA COST TOO.

2291
01:01:07,097 --> 01:01:07,797
AND THEN WHO'S GONNA PAY

2292
01:01:07,797 --> 01:01:08,098
FOR THAT?

2293
01:01:08,098 --> 01:01:09,299
>> BUT IT'S TEMPORARY LIKE YOU,

2294
01:01:09,299 --> 01:01:10,100
THEY DID IT WHEN...

2295
01:01:10,100 --> 01:01:11,735
THEY WERE DOING THE TWO

2296
01:01:11,735 --> 01:01:13,069
ON BRIDGE ON MURPHY,

2297
01:01:13,069 --> 01:01:14,538
UM, IN MARTIN COUNTY.

2298
01:01:14,538 --> 01:01:15,038
WHEN THEY WERE

2299
01:01:15,038 --> 01:01:15,572
BUILDING THAT BRIDGE,

2300
01:01:15,572 --> 01:01:17,073
THEY PUT TEMPORARY RUMBLE STRIPS

2301
01:01:17,073 --> 01:01:18,308
IN UNTIL THEY COU...

2302
01:01:18,308 --> 01:01:19,709
THEY HAD ONE OF THOSE TEMPORARY

2303
01:01:19,709 --> 01:01:20,911
LIGHTS  YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT

2304
01:01:20,911 --> 01:01:21,678
UNTIL THAT THEY FINISHED,

2305
01:01:21,678 --> 01:01:22,679
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

2306
01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:23,680
EVEN IF THAT'S SOMETHING

2307
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:24,447
WE DO IMMEDIATELY,

2308
01:01:24,447 --> 01:01:25,582
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT IT.

2309
01:01:25,582 --> 01:01:27,651
>> I-I DON'T THINK... I'M SORRY.

2310
01:01:27,651 --> 01:01:29,185
I DON'T THINK IT'S THE

2311
01:01:29,185 --> 01:01:31,054
RUMBLE STRIPS COMING UP TO IT.

2312
01:01:31,054 --> 01:01:33,823
THEY STOP AND THE TRAFFIC

2313
01:01:33,823 --> 01:01:35,525
ON GLADES CUT-OFF,

2314
01:01:35,525 --> 01:01:37,127
EVEN THOUGH THE SPEED LIMIT

2315
01:01:37,127 --> 01:01:38,461
IS 50, OR 55,

2316
01:01:38,461 --> 01:01:41,932
THEY'RE DOING 85, OR 75, OR 65,

2317
01:01:41,932 --> 01:01:45,101
AND PEOPLE ARE PULLING OUT TO GO

2318
01:01:45,101 --> 01:01:47,370
SOUTH OR NORTH AND T-BONED,

2319
01:01:47,370 --> 01:01:49,072
THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

2320
01:01:49,072 --> 01:01:50,774
THAT'S-THAT'S FROM WHAT

2321
01:01:50,774 --> 01:01:53,109
I UNDERSTAND, AND YEAH.

2322
01:01:53,109 --> 01:01:54,544
>> WELL, GOOD DISCUSSION.

2323
01:01:54,544 --> 01:01:55,512
GOOD DISCUSSION.

2324
01:01:55,512 --> 01:01:56,513
>> WELL, THANK YOU

2325
01:01:56,513 --> 01:01:57,314
FOR INDULGING ME.

2326
01:01:57,314 --> 01:01:57,948
ONE MORE MEETING

2327
01:01:57,948 --> 01:01:59,082
AND THEN I'LL BE GONE.

2328
01:01:59,082 --> 01:02:00,083
[LAUGHING]

2329
01:02:00,083 --> 01:02:01,718
>> THAT'S IT, RIGHT?

2330
01:02:01,718 --> 01:02:02,953
>> YES!

2331
01:02:02,953 --> 01:02:04,087
>> DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS

2332
01:02:04,087 --> 01:02:04,688
FROM THE STAFF?

2333
01:02:04,688 --> 01:02:05,589
>> JUST A COUPLE, UH,

2334
01:02:05,589 --> 01:02:05,989
MADAM CHAIRWOMAN

2335
01:02:05,989 --> 01:02:08,024
AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD...

2336
01:02:08,024 --> 01:02:09,392
OF THE BOARD.

2337
01:02:09,392 --> 01:02:10,527
WELL, AT THE, UH,

2338
01:02:10,527 --> 01:02:11,428
MEETING LAST WEEK,

2339
01:02:11,428 --> 01:02:12,362
THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE HAD

2340
01:02:12,362 --> 01:02:13,330
THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET

2341
01:02:13,330 --> 01:02:14,230
WITH OUR NEW ATTORNEY AND

2342
01:02:14,230 --> 01:02:15,498
I'D LIKE THE REST OF THE BOARD

2343
01:02:15,498 --> 01:02:17,767
TO MEET HER ALSO SO I'D LIKE

2344
01:02:17,767 --> 01:02:19,102
TO INTRODUCE KIMLYN WALKER,

2345
01:02:19,102 --> 01:02:21,037
WHO, UH, COMES TO US

2346
01:02:21,037 --> 01:02:22,205
FROM CHARLOTTE COUNTY

2347
01:02:22,205 --> 01:02:22,806
AND SHE COULD BE

2348
01:02:22,806 --> 01:02:23,440
A WONDERFUL ASSET CAUSE

2349
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:24,841
SHE ALREADY HAS EXPERIENCE

2350
01:02:24,841 --> 01:02:25,575
WITH MPOS,

2351
01:02:25,575 --> 01:02:26,776
HAVING, UM, SERVED

2352
01:02:26,776 --> 01:02:28,845
THE CHARLOTTE... UH, DAKOTA MPO

2353
01:02:28,845 --> 01:02:30,847
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING

2354
01:02:30,847 --> 01:02:31,548
WITH KIMLYN.

2355
01:02:31,548 --> 01:02:32,482
AND THEN THE, UH...

2356
01:02:32,482 --> 01:02:33,817
ALSO AT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE

2357
01:02:33,817 --> 01:02:34,117
MEETING,

2358
01:02:34,117 --> 01:02:36,019
THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE

2359
01:02:36,019 --> 01:02:36,653
REQUESTED

2360
01:02:36,653 --> 01:02:38,021
THAT I PROVIDE A SUMMARY

2361
01:02:38,021 --> 01:02:39,155
OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS

2362
01:02:39,155 --> 01:02:40,323
OF THE ST. LUCIE TPO FROM

2363
01:02:40,323 --> 01:02:41,725
THE FLORIDA PROPERTY TAX

2364
01:02:41,725 --> 01:02:42,459
AMENDMENT THREE

2365
01:02:42,459 --> 01:02:44,027
THAT IS ON THE BALLOT

2366
01:02:44,027 --> 01:02:44,995
AND IF PASSED,

2367
01:02:44,995 --> 01:02:46,396
AMENDMENT THREE WILL NOT HAVE

2368
01:02:46,396 --> 01:02:46,997
ANY IMPACTS

2369
01:02:46,997 --> 01:02:48,264
ON THE ST. LUCIE TPO

2370
01:02:48,264 --> 01:02:50,266
BECAUSE THE TPO RECEIVES NO

2371
01:02:50,266 --> 01:02:51,101
LOCAL FUNDING

2372
01:02:51,101 --> 01:02:52,435
AND NO FUNDING FROM

2373
01:02:52,435 --> 01:02:53,136
PROPERTY TAXES.

2374
01:02:53,136 --> 01:02:55,138
THE TPO CURRENTLY IS FUNDED BY

2375
01:02:55,138 --> 01:02:56,873
THREE FEDERAL STATE GRANTS

2376
01:02:56,873 --> 01:02:57,741
WHICH ARE

2377
01:02:57,741 --> 01:02:59,709
THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING GRANT,

2378
01:02:59,709 --> 01:03:01,044
ALSO KNOWN AS A PL GRANT

2379
01:03:01,044 --> 01:03:02,212
WHICH IS A FEDERAL GRANT,

2380
01:03:02,212 --> 01:03:03,213
A SERVICE TRANSPORTATION

2381
01:03:03,213 --> 01:03:03,913
BLOCK GRANT,

2382
01:03:03,913 --> 01:03:05,348
ALSO KNOWN AS AN SU GRANT

2383
01:03:05,348 --> 01:03:06,783
AND IS ALSO A FEDERAL GRANT.

2384
01:03:06,783 --> 01:03:07,751
AND A GRANT FROM THE COMMISSION

2385
01:03:07,751 --> 01:03:09,085
FOR THE TRANSPORTATION

2386
01:03:09,085 --> 01:03:09,552
DISADVANTAGE,

2387
01:03:09,552 --> 01:03:10,854
ALSO KNOWN AS A TD GRANT

2388
01:03:10,854 --> 01:03:11,988
WHICH IS A STATE GRANT.

2389
01:03:11,988 --> 01:03:12,989
AND TOLL REVENUE CREDITS

2390
01:03:12,989 --> 01:03:14,257
ARE USED BY THE FLORIDA

2391
01:03:14,257 --> 01:03:15,225
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION

2392
01:03:15,225 --> 01:03:16,192
FOR THE MATCHES

2393
01:03:16,192 --> 01:03:17,294
FOR THE FEDERAL GRANT

2394
01:03:17,294 --> 01:03:18,161
SO THANK YOU

2395
01:03:18,161 --> 01:03:19,162
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT

2396
01:03:19,162 --> 01:03:20,163
OF TRANSPORTATION.

2397
01:03:20,163 --> 01:03:21,197
AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

2398
01:03:21,197 --> 01:03:21,931
THE BOARD MAY HAVE

2399
01:03:21,931 --> 01:03:23,667
REGARDING THE AMENDMENT

2400
01:03:23,667 --> 01:03:24,868
THREE IMPACTS.

2401
01:03:24,868 --> 01:03:25,935
>> OKAY.

2402
01:03:25,935 --> 01:03:26,736
COUNCIL.

2403
01:03:26,736 --> 01:03:27,604
>> OKAY, SORRY, GO AHEAD.

2404
01:03:27,604 --> 01:03:29,039
>> VICE MAYOR CARABALLO.

2405
01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:30,707
>> IS SOMEONE ELSE GONNA SAY?

2406
01:03:30,707 --> 01:03:32,509
>> NO, GO AHEAD.

2407
01:03:32,509 --> 01:03:33,376
>> I WAS JUST GONNA SAY  I THINK

2408
01:03:33,376 --> 01:03:33,943
YOU STILL ARE GONNA HAVE

2409
01:03:33,943 --> 01:03:35,845
IMPACTS IN THE SENSE OF THE CITY

2410
01:03:35,845 --> 01:03:36,946
OF PORT ST. LUCIE

2411
01:03:36,946 --> 01:03:37,847
AT LEAST I COULD JUST SPEAK

2412
01:03:37,847 --> 01:03:38,181
FOR US,

2413
01:03:38,181 --> 01:03:39,315
I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE

2414
01:03:39,315 --> 01:03:40,083
TO FORWARD FUND PROJECTS

2415
01:03:40,083 --> 01:03:41,484
COZ WE DID HAVE LOCAL FUNDING

2416
01:03:41,484 --> 01:03:42,185
TO DO THAT

2417
01:03:42,185 --> 01:03:43,386
WHICH WE'VE TAKEN FUNDING

2418
01:03:43,386 --> 01:03:44,921
PROJECTS OFF THE TPO TO...

2419
01:03:44,921 --> 01:03:46,322
AND IT'S SHORTENED THE LIST

2420
01:03:46,322 --> 01:03:46,923
OVER TIME.

2421
01:03:46,923 --> 01:03:48,892
SO WHILE IT MAY NOT BE

2422
01:03:48,892 --> 01:03:49,225
MONETARILY

2423
01:03:49,225 --> 01:03:50,794
AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT,

2424
01:03:50,794 --> 01:03:52,095
THE REALITY IS IS THAT YOUR LIST

2425
01:03:52,095 --> 01:03:53,129
IS GONNA END UP GETTING LONGER.

2426
01:03:53,129 --> 01:03:54,497
THERE'S GONNA BE HIGHER DEMANDS

2427
01:03:54,497 --> 01:03:55,632
AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE

2428
01:03:55,632 --> 01:03:56,900
THE SAME AMOUNT OF FUNDING SO...

2429
01:03:56,900 --> 01:03:57,634
>> I SHOULD CLARIFY

2430
01:03:57,634 --> 01:03:58,001
YOU'RE RIGHT.

2431
01:03:58,001 --> 01:03:58,668
YOU'RE-YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY

2432
01:03:58,668 --> 01:03:59,035
CORRECT.

2433
01:03:59,035 --> 01:04:00,837
BUT IT'S THE TPO OPERATIONS.

2434
01:04:00,837 --> 01:04:02,072
>> 100%, YEAH.

2435
01:04:02,072 --> 01:04:02,906
>> WE TALKED ABOUT...

2436
01:04:02,906 --> 01:04:03,540
AT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE,

2437
01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:04,541
WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT

2438
01:04:04,541 --> 01:04:05,375
THAT OPERATIONS IS FINE

2439
01:04:05,375 --> 01:04:07,377
BUT PROJECTS MAY NOT, UM,

2440
01:04:07,377 --> 01:04:09,779
YOU KNOW, SUFFER THE SAME FATE.

2441
01:04:09,779 --> 01:04:10,980
>> DURING OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE

2442
01:04:10,980 --> 01:04:11,715
MEETINGS THERE'S BEEN

2443
01:04:11,715 --> 01:04:12,749
A DISCUSSION BY THE COMMITTEE

2444
01:04:12,749 --> 01:04:14,017
AS WELL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC,

2445
01:04:14,017 --> 01:04:15,151
UH, WERE IDENTIFYING WHAT THEY

2446
01:04:15,151 --> 01:04:16,286
ASKED WOULD BE THE IMPACT

2447
01:04:16,286 --> 01:04:17,954
TO THAT AND WE DID RECOGNIZE

2448
01:04:17,954 --> 01:04:19,756
THERE'LL BE TREMENDOUS IMPACTS

2449
01:04:19,756 --> 01:04:20,690
TO PROJECTS

2450
01:04:20,690 --> 01:04:22,092
THAT ARE, UH, ALL THE LOCAL

2451
01:04:22,092 --> 01:04:22,359
PROJECTS

2452
01:04:22,359 --> 01:04:24,260
BECAUSE THEY'RE PARTIALLY FUNDED

2453
01:04:24,260 --> 01:04:26,196
WITH, UH, LOCAL FUNDS

2454
01:04:26,196 --> 01:04:27,430
THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY PROPERTY

2455
01:04:27,430 --> 01:04:28,698
TAX SO IT COULD, UH,

2456
01:04:28,698 --> 01:04:30,900
SI-SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE WORK

2457
01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:33,670
PROGRAM FOR THE, UH, AREA.

2458
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:34,537
>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

2459
01:04:34,537 --> 01:04:36,206
>> THANK YOU, UH, SO PETER, UH,

2460
01:04:36,206 --> 01:04:37,207
AS WE STATED DURING

2461
01:04:37,207 --> 01:04:39,042
THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING

2462
01:04:39,042 --> 01:04:39,943
AND I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING

2463
01:04:39,943 --> 01:04:40,310
THIS DISCUSSION.

2464
01:04:40,310 --> 01:04:42,312
I'D LIKE TO GET A BETTER

2465
01:04:42,312 --> 01:04:42,679
UNDERSTANDING

2466
01:04:42,679 --> 01:04:44,414
OF THAT AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACT

2467
01:04:44,414 --> 01:04:45,582
OF THESE PROJECTS, RIGHT?

2468
01:04:45,582 --> 01:04:47,117
I MEAN, WE KNOW WHAT SOME

2469
01:04:47,117 --> 01:04:48,151
OF THESE PROJECTS ARE

2470
01:04:48,151 --> 01:04:49,519
BUT I-I THINK AT SOME POINT

2471
01:04:49,519 --> 01:04:50,887
WE HAVE TO HELP THE PUBLIC

2472
01:04:50,887 --> 01:04:53,123
UNDERSTAND EVEN IF IT'S FROM

2473
01:04:53,123 --> 01:04:54,491
A HINDSIGHT, UH,

2474
01:04:54,491 --> 01:04:56,726
UH, UH, UH, UH, PAST EXPERIENCE

2475
01:04:56,726 --> 01:04:58,962
THAT WE CAN USE PAST DATA

2476
01:04:58,962 --> 01:05:00,630
TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND

2477
01:05:00,630 --> 01:05:02,298
BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND

2478
01:05:02,298 --> 01:05:03,767
AND I THINK IT'LL HELP US

2479
01:05:03,767 --> 01:05:04,534
UNDERSTAND AS WELL.

2480
01:05:04,534 --> 01:05:05,735
SO IF WE CAN EVEN LOOK BACK

2481
01:05:05,735 --> 01:05:07,804
OVER THE PAST YEAR SOME OF THESE

2482
01:05:07,804 --> 01:05:09,005
PROJECTS THAT VICE MAYOR

2483
01:05:09,005 --> 01:05:09,906
HAS TALKED ABOUT THAT HAS

2484
01:05:09,906 --> 01:05:10,306
COME THROUGH

2485
01:05:10,306 --> 01:05:11,741
SOME OF OUR FUNDING AND HOW

2486
01:05:11,741 --> 01:05:12,475
WE PARTNER TOGETHER

2487
01:05:12,475 --> 01:05:15,078
WITH THE TPO TO DO SOME OF THESE

2488
01:05:15,078 --> 01:05:15,745
PROJECTS, UH,

2489
01:05:15,745 --> 01:05:17,547
THAT WOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND

2490
01:05:17,547 --> 01:05:18,648
BECAUSE I NEED TO BE ABLE

2491
01:05:18,648 --> 01:05:19,415
TO TAKE THIS BACK

2492
01:05:19,415 --> 01:05:21,618
TO MY COUNCIL, UH, FOR THEM

2493
01:05:21,618 --> 01:05:23,119
TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT.

2494
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:24,754
I MEAN, WE HAVE THE 50/50 BUY-IN

2495
01:05:24,754 --> 01:05:25,688
ON SOME OF THESE-THESE

2496
01:05:25,688 --> 01:05:27,123
GRANTS WE HAVE TO MATCH.

2497
01:05:27,123 --> 01:05:29,058
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE

2498
01:05:29,058 --> 01:05:30,193
A GRASP OF WHAT

2499
01:05:30,193 --> 01:05:31,961
THAT LOOKED LIKE FOR

2500
01:05:31,961 --> 01:05:33,296
THE PAST YEAR

2501
01:05:33,296 --> 01:05:34,130
IN WHICH WE PARTICIPATED

2502
01:05:34,130 --> 01:05:35,198
IN THIS AND WHAT THAT

2503
01:05:35,198 --> 01:05:36,533
POTENTIAL WILL LOOK LIKE

2504
01:05:36,533 --> 01:05:37,200
GOING FORWARD.

2505
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,835
I THINK IT GIVES US A BETTER

2506
01:05:38,835 --> 01:05:39,803
PERSPECTIVE THINKING ABOUT IT.

2507
01:05:39,803 --> 01:05:41,337
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF

2508
01:05:41,337 --> 01:05:42,272
A HISTORICAL DIG,

2509
01:05:42,272 --> 01:05:43,773
BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO USE

2510
01:05:43,773 --> 01:05:44,440
THE PAST DATA

2511
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,310
TO HELP TELL THE FUTURE OF WHAT

2512
01:05:47,310 --> 01:05:48,978
WE'RE POTENTIALLY FACING HERE.

2513
01:05:48,978 --> 01:05:50,513
>> MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.

2514
01:05:50,513 --> 01:05:51,181
ABSOLUTELY, COMMISSIONER

2515
01:05:51,181 --> 01:05:52,949
JOHNSON, WE COULD, UH, INVENTORY

2516
01:05:52,949 --> 01:05:53,716
OUR TRANSPORTATION

2517
01:05:53,716 --> 01:05:54,484
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM

2518
01:05:54,484 --> 01:05:55,952
AND IDENTIFY ALL OF THOSE,

2519
01:05:55,952 --> 01:05:56,853
UH, PROJECTS THAT

2520
01:05:56,853 --> 01:05:57,587
ARE PROGRAMMED

2521
01:05:57,587 --> 01:05:58,688
WITH LOCAL FUNDING.

2522
01:05:58,688 --> 01:05:59,622
AND THEN ASSUME WORST CASE

2523
01:05:59,622 --> 01:06:00,223
SCENARIO HOW THAT

2524
01:06:00,223 --> 01:06:01,324
WOULD BE IMPACTED

2525
01:06:01,324 --> 01:06:02,559
IF THAT LOCAL FUNDING WAS

2526
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:03,059
NOT THERE.

2527
01:06:03,059 --> 01:06:03,726
>> ABSOLUTELY IS WHAT

2528
01:06:03,726 --> 01:06:04,093
I'M ASKING.

2529
01:06:04,093 --> 01:06:05,528
>> IF I PRESENT THAT AT

2530
01:06:05,528 --> 01:06:06,496
THE OCTOBER BOARD MEETING,

2531
01:06:06,496 --> 01:06:07,297
WILL THAT SUFFICE?

2532
01:06:07,297 --> 01:06:08,998
AN IN-DEPTH, UH, DISCUSSION

2533
01:06:08,998 --> 01:06:10,733
AGENDA ITEM FOR THAT?

2534
01:06:10,733 --> 01:06:12,268
>> YEAH.

2535
01:06:12,268 --> 01:06:13,102
>> I MEAN, WE COULD...

2536
01:06:13,102 --> 01:06:13,603
WE COULD PARTNER

2537
01:06:13,603 --> 01:06:15,071
WITH YOU AND THEN HAVE CITY

2538
01:06:15,071 --> 01:06:16,306
OF... STAFF TO PROVIDE YOU

2539
01:06:16,306 --> 01:06:17,540
THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WOULD

2540
01:06:17,540 --> 01:06:18,408
HAVE QUALIFIED FOR TPO

2541
01:06:18,408 --> 01:06:20,243
FUNDING BUT THAT WE LOCALLY

2542
01:06:20,243 --> 01:06:21,010
FUNDED OURSELVES

2543
01:06:21,010 --> 01:06:21,744
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PUT

2544
01:06:21,744 --> 01:06:22,378
ON THE TPO LIST

2545
01:06:22,378 --> 01:06:23,479
HAD IT NOT HAD LOCAL FUNDING.

2546
01:06:23,479 --> 01:06:24,514
>> THAT'S ANOTHER ADDITION

2547
01:06:24,514 --> 01:06:25,548
AS WELL, THAT'S CORRECT.

2548
01:06:25,548 --> 01:06:26,883
>> AND THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL.

2549
01:06:26,883 --> 01:06:27,784
>> COMMISSIONER LEE.

2550
01:06:27,784 --> 01:06:28,985
>> UH, SOMETHING ELSE YOU CAN

2551
01:06:28,985 --> 01:06:29,619
LOOK AT TOO,

2552
01:06:29,619 --> 01:06:31,321
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE

2553
01:06:31,321 --> 01:06:32,355
GONE THROUGH BEFORE

2554
01:06:32,355 --> 01:06:33,756
IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK

2555
01:06:33,756 --> 01:06:34,724
AT THE TAX STRUCTURE

2556
01:06:34,724 --> 01:06:38,261
BACK IN 2006, 2007, 2008

2557
01:06:38,261 --> 01:06:39,696
PROPERTY TAXES

2558
01:06:39,696 --> 01:06:41,164
WERE VIRTUALLY THE SAME AS THEY

2559
01:06:41,164 --> 01:06:41,931
ARE RIGHT NOW.

2560
01:06:41,931 --> 01:06:44,200
IN FACT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

2561
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,202
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE TOOK

2562
01:06:46,202 --> 01:06:47,804
A DIVE IN 2009.

2563
01:06:47,804 --> 01:06:50,006
SO WE HAVE HISTORICAL DATA.

2564
01:06:50,006 --> 01:06:51,241
OBVIOUSLY NOT THE PROJECTS

2565
01:06:51,241 --> 01:06:52,642
THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY,

2566
01:06:52,642 --> 01:06:54,177
BUT YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE

2567
01:06:54,177 --> 01:06:55,478
WHAT THE EFFECT IS GOING BACK

2568
01:06:55,478 --> 01:06:56,579
IN TIME AND LOOKING AT

2569
01:06:56,579 --> 01:06:58,448
WHAT EACH MUNICIPALITY

2570
01:06:58,448 --> 01:07:00,950
DID BACK IN 2009

2571
01:07:00,950 --> 01:07:04,387
AND GET A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF

2572
01:07:04,387 --> 01:07:06,389
WHAT POSSIBLY IS UPCOMING.

2573
01:07:06,389 --> 01:07:07,357
>> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY

2574
01:07:07,357 --> 01:07:07,924
THE CHAMBER WOULD LIKE

2575
01:07:07,924 --> 01:07:10,793
TO PUT TOGETHER A, UM, SORT OF

2576
01:07:10,793 --> 01:07:12,061
A MARKETING PIECE

2577
01:07:12,061 --> 01:07:13,563
ON ALL THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES

2578
01:07:13,563 --> 01:07:14,831
AND HOW THEY WOULD BE AFFECTED.

2579
01:07:14,831 --> 01:07:15,832
SO IF YOU COULD PROVIDE

2580
01:07:15,832 --> 01:07:17,033
THAT TO US IN TERMS OF,

2581
01:07:17,033 --> 01:07:18,635
YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR

2582
01:07:18,635 --> 01:07:20,370
THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY CAME

2583
01:07:20,370 --> 01:07:21,437
FROM LOCAL FUNDS

2584
01:07:21,437 --> 01:07:22,505
THEN, UH, THAT COULD BE

2585
01:07:22,505 --> 01:07:22,939
ADDED TO...

2586
01:07:22,939 --> 01:07:24,240
WE'LL-WE'LL HAVE THE CHILDREN'S

2587
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:24,908
SERVICES COUNCIL,

2588
01:07:24,908 --> 01:07:25,875
YOU KNOW, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB,

2589
01:07:25,875 --> 01:07:27,243
ALL THESE SORTS OF THINGS

2590
01:07:27,243 --> 01:07:28,411
ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED

2591
01:07:28,411 --> 01:07:28,878
BY THE...

2592
01:07:28,878 --> 01:07:30,813
BY THIS, UM,

2593
01:07:30,813 --> 01:07:32,782
THIS AMENDMENT AND SO WE WOULD

2594
01:07:32,782 --> 01:07:33,783
LIKE TO HAVE...

2595
01:07:33,783 --> 01:07:35,985
LET EVERYBODY HAVE THAT

2596
01:07:35,985 --> 01:07:38,221
INFORMATION IN ONE-ONE PIECE.

2597
01:07:38,221 --> 01:07:39,923
SO THAT'D BE HELPFUL

2598
01:07:39,923 --> 01:07:41,624
AND JUST BULLET POINTS.

2599
01:07:41,624 --> 01:07:43,026
>> SO YOU SAID JUST FOR THE TPO,

2600
01:07:43,026 --> 01:07:44,127
HOW IT WOULD AFFECT THE TPO.

2601
01:07:44,127 --> 01:07:45,061
>> YEAH, HOW IT LIKE...

2602
01:07:45,061 --> 01:07:46,462
OR MAYBE JUST GIVE US LAST YEAR,

2603
01:07:46,462 --> 01:07:46,896
YOU KNOW,

2604
01:07:46,896 --> 01:07:49,232
THIS MUCH MONEY WAS, UM,

2605
01:07:49,232 --> 01:07:51,868
GIVEN TO-TO THE TPO FOR

2606
01:07:51,868 --> 01:07:52,936
LOCAL PROJECTS.

2607
01:07:52,936 --> 01:07:53,770
UM, IT'S JUST SOMETHING

2608
01:07:53,770 --> 01:07:54,203
THAT THEY...

2609
01:07:54,203 --> 01:07:55,705
PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND

2610
01:07:55,705 --> 01:07:57,573
AND THAT IS A POTENTIAL LOSS,

2611
01:07:57,573 --> 01:07:58,207
YOU KNOW,

2612
01:07:58,207 --> 01:07:59,609
AT LEAST A PORTION OF THAT WOULD

2613
01:07:59,609 --> 01:08:00,643
BE AT A POTENTIAL LOSS.

2614
01:08:00,643 --> 01:08:02,045
WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY

2615
01:08:02,045 --> 01:08:03,813
DUMB IT DOWN, YOU KNOW,

2616
01:08:03,813 --> 01:08:05,748
SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET THE IDEA

2617
01:08:05,748 --> 01:08:08,451
IN THREE SECONDS OR LESS, UM,

2618
01:08:08,451 --> 01:08:09,819
SO THAT WE CAN START

2619
01:08:09,819 --> 01:08:10,386
DISSEMINATING THROUGHOUT

2620
01:08:10,386 --> 01:08:10,954
THE COMMUNITY.

2621
01:08:10,954 --> 01:08:11,921
>> BLESS YOU.

2622
01:08:11,921 --> 01:08:13,389
>> I MEAN. WE-WE CAN MAYBE WIN

2623
01:08:13,389 --> 01:08:14,257
IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY,

2624
01:08:14,257 --> 01:08:15,124
WE HAVE THE STATE TO

2625
01:08:15,124 --> 01:08:15,491
CONTEND WITH

2626
01:08:15,491 --> 01:08:16,826
BUT WE GOTTA DO OUR PART.

2627
01:08:16,826 --> 01:08:17,627
>> SURE.

2628
01:08:17,627 --> 01:08:18,795
>> AND I THINK... SORRY I WAS

2629
01:08:18,795 --> 01:08:19,996
GONNA SAY I THINK TIME IS MONEY.

2630
01:08:19,996 --> 01:08:21,097
JOE, I THINK WHEN YOU START

2631
01:08:21,097 --> 01:08:22,065
TO LOOK AT THE PROJECTS

2632
01:08:22,065 --> 01:08:23,266
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED

2633
01:08:23,266 --> 01:08:24,033
TO THE TPO,

2634
01:08:24,033 --> 01:08:25,401
WHICH THE GOAL IS TO GET ALL

2635
01:08:25,401 --> 01:08:26,002
THESE PROJECTS DONE

2636
01:08:26,002 --> 01:08:27,904
IN 50 YEARS THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE

2637
01:08:27,904 --> 01:08:29,305
A 2050 PLAN OR WHATEVER

2638
01:08:29,305 --> 01:08:30,807
AND NOW THE PROJECT LIST

2639
01:08:30,807 --> 01:08:32,342
HAS INCREASED TO THE POINT

2640
01:08:32,342 --> 01:08:33,543
WHERE IT'S A 100 YEAR

2641
01:08:33,543 --> 01:08:34,310
PROJECT LIST VERSUS

2642
01:08:34,310 --> 01:08:36,212
A 50 YEAR PROJECT LIST.

2643
01:08:36,212 --> 01:08:37,714
DO PEOPLE WANT THAT ROAD

2644
01:08:37,714 --> 01:08:38,948
FINISHED IN 10 YEARS

2645
01:08:38,948 --> 01:08:39,983
WHICH SOUNDS LIKE A LONG TIME

2646
01:08:39,983 --> 01:08:40,683
OR IN 30 YEARS

2647
01:08:40,683 --> 01:08:43,886
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE

2648
01:08:43,886 --> 01:08:45,488
LOCAL FUNDING.

2649
01:08:45,488 --> 01:08:46,289
>> COMMISSIONER.

2650
01:08:46,289 --> 01:08:48,291
>> I THINK THAT WE GOTTA JUST

2651
01:08:48,291 --> 01:08:48,891
GET-GET USED

2652
01:08:48,891 --> 01:08:50,259
TO THE FACT THAT AMENDMENT

2653
01:08:50,259 --> 01:08:51,094
THREE COULD HAPPEN

2654
01:08:51,094 --> 01:08:52,729
AND IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN

2655
01:08:52,729 --> 01:08:53,396
BYRON DONALD'S

2656
01:08:53,396 --> 01:08:54,764
OR WHOEVER THE NEXT GOVERNOR IS

2657
01:08:54,764 --> 01:08:55,999
COULD CALL A SPECIAL SESSION

2658
01:08:55,999 --> 01:08:56,532
IN DECEMBER

2659
01:08:56,532 --> 01:08:57,834
AND TRY AGAIN, UM, AND THERE'S

2660
01:08:57,834 --> 01:08:58,968
OTHER THINGS THEY CAN DO

2661
01:08:58,968 --> 01:09:00,570
WITH JUST LEGISLATION

2662
01:09:00,570 --> 01:09:02,705
THAT JUST AS SEVERELY

2663
01:09:02,705 --> 01:09:04,874
CRIPPLES OUR REVENUE STREAM AS

2664
01:09:04,874 --> 01:09:06,175
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT,

2665
01:09:06,175 --> 01:09:08,044
UM, IN FACT THERE'S ALREADY

2666
01:09:08,044 --> 01:09:09,212
SOMETHING IN-IN EFFECT

2667
01:09:09,212 --> 01:09:10,847
THIS TIME AS FAR AS ROLLBACK

2668
01:09:10,847 --> 01:09:11,948
RATES AND, YOU KNOW,

2669
01:09:11,948 --> 01:09:14,617
IT ONLY TAKES TWO OF US TO FORCE

2670
01:09:14,617 --> 01:09:16,319
A ROLLBACK RATE SO, UM,

2671
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:17,487
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE

2672
01:09:17,487 --> 01:09:18,187
A NEW NORMAL

2673
01:09:18,187 --> 01:09:18,988
THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

2674
01:09:18,988 --> 01:09:20,456
THERE'S NO JUST AUTOMATIC

2675
01:09:20,456 --> 01:09:21,958
RAISES IN REVENUE ANYMORE.

2676
01:09:21,958 --> 01:09:23,126
IT'S... THERE'S GONNA BE

2677
01:09:23,126 --> 01:09:24,327
ALL SORTS OF PUSHBACK

2678
01:09:24,327 --> 01:09:25,395
AND, YOU KNOW, I-I

2679
01:09:25,395 --> 01:09:25,962
MENTIONED THAT

2680
01:09:25,962 --> 01:09:26,896
THE TREASURE COAST COUNCIL

2681
01:09:26,896 --> 01:09:27,630
OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS

2682
01:09:27,630 --> 01:09:28,531
THIS MORNING WE WERE...

2683
01:09:28,531 --> 01:09:30,299
WE HAD THIS AS A PART

2684
01:09:30,299 --> 01:09:31,501
OF OUR TOPIC DISCUSSION

2685
01:09:31,501 --> 01:09:32,635
AND EVERYBODY'S STRATEGIZING

2686
01:09:32,635 --> 01:09:34,570
HOW YOU CAN AVOID IT

2687
01:09:34,570 --> 01:09:35,772
FROM HAPPENING, I MEAN, IT COULD

2688
01:09:35,772 --> 01:09:36,205
BE INEVITABLE.

2689
01:09:36,205 --> 01:09:38,107
YOU DON'T KNOW SO YOU ALSO,

2690
01:09:38,107 --> 01:09:38,908
WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT,

2691
01:09:38,908 --> 01:09:40,143
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT

2692
01:09:40,143 --> 01:09:41,644
DO WE DO IF IT DOES HAPPEN.

2693
01:09:41,644 --> 01:09:42,845
I MEAN, I...

2694
01:09:42,845 --> 01:09:44,147
SOMEONE WHO ISN'T ME HAS WRITTEN

2695
01:09:44,147 --> 01:09:45,014
LOTS OF WHITE PAPERS

2696
01:09:45,014 --> 01:09:46,149
AND HANDED THEM OUT ACROSS

2697
01:09:46,149 --> 01:09:47,083
PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE

2698
01:09:47,083 --> 01:09:48,684
BUT ONE OF THOSE IDEAS IS THAT,

2699
01:09:48,684 --> 01:09:49,152
YOU KNOW,

2700
01:09:49,152 --> 01:09:50,720
IF THIS DOES HAPPEN SPECIFICALLY

2701
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,156
AT ST. LUCIE COUNTY'S, UH, UH,

2702
01:09:53,156 --> 01:09:53,990
SITUATION WHERE

2703
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:55,892
WE HAVE AN INTERIM COUNTY

2704
01:09:55,892 --> 01:09:57,060
ADMINISTRATOR THAT SLIGHTLY

2705
01:09:57,060 --> 01:09:58,394
SUGGESTED THEY DON'T WANNA BE

2706
01:09:58,394 --> 01:09:59,228
THE PERMANENT ONE

2707
01:09:59,228 --> 01:10:00,863
BUT, YOU KNOW, TIME WILL TELL

2708
01:10:00,863 --> 01:10:02,265
IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT.

2709
01:10:02,265 --> 01:10:04,934
UM, THAT YOU'D HAVE A CONSULTANT

2710
01:10:04,934 --> 01:10:05,835
COME IN

2711
01:10:05,835 --> 01:10:07,203
AND BASICALLY TAKE  THE REINS

2712
01:10:07,203 --> 01:10:09,138
OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION

2713
01:10:09,138 --> 01:10:09,639
ORGANIZATION

2714
01:10:09,639 --> 01:10:11,941
AND REORGANIZE IT PROBABLY HAVE

2715
01:10:11,941 --> 01:10:14,243
TO FIRE LOTS OF PEOPLE

2716
01:10:14,243 --> 01:10:15,278
UNFORTUNATELY WITH-WITH THE

2717
01:10:15,278 --> 01:10:17,413
AMOUNT OF REVENUE WE WOULD HAVE.

2718
01:10:17,413 --> 01:10:18,981
LOOK FOR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT

2719
01:10:18,981 --> 01:10:19,949
FEES AND THINGS

2720
01:10:19,949 --> 01:10:20,783
THAT COULD BE SET UP.

2721
01:10:20,783 --> 01:10:22,118
SET UP A SYSTEM

2722
01:10:22,118 --> 01:10:22,785
THAT'S SUSTAINABLE

2723
01:10:22,785 --> 01:10:24,187
AND THEN YOU HAND THE KEYS OFF

2724
01:10:24,187 --> 01:10:25,021
TO THE NEXT ADMINISTRATOR

2725
01:10:25,021 --> 01:10:26,789
THAT DIDN'T HAVE TO JUST FIRE

2726
01:10:26,789 --> 01:10:27,390
300 PEOPLE.

2727
01:10:27,390 --> 01:10:29,292
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, TH-THESE ARE

2728
01:10:29,292 --> 01:10:29,926
THE REALITIES

2729
01:10:29,926 --> 01:10:31,828
THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT

2730
01:10:31,828 --> 01:10:32,628
AMENDMENT THREE

2731
01:10:32,628 --> 01:10:33,696
NOT HAPPENING ALL WE WANT

2732
01:10:33,696 --> 01:10:34,764
BUT YOU HAVE TO ALSO

2733
01:10:34,764 --> 01:10:37,700
TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO WHEN IT

2734
01:10:37,700 --> 01:10:38,568
DOES HAPPEN.

2735
01:10:38,568 --> 01:10:40,470
>> WELL, AND I THINK TO YOUR

2736
01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:41,604
POINT, UM, COMMISSIONER CLASBY,

2737
01:10:41,604 --> 01:10:42,805
I THINK...

2738
01:10:42,805 --> 01:10:44,907
I THINK THE DATA IS-IS SO

2739
01:10:44,907 --> 01:10:45,975
IMPORTANT THOUGH BECAUSE

2740
01:10:45,975 --> 01:10:46,642
IF AMENDMENT THREE WASN'T

2741
01:10:46,642 --> 01:10:47,543
TO PASS OR LET'S SAY

2742
01:10:47,543 --> 01:10:48,611
IT WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE

2743
01:10:48,611 --> 01:10:49,512
THE BALLOT BASED UPON

2744
01:10:49,512 --> 01:10:50,913
WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE COURT

2745
01:10:50,913 --> 01:10:51,380
RIGHT NOW,

2746
01:10:51,380 --> 01:10:54,250
UM, I WOULD HOPE THAT ANY FUTURE

2747
01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:54,684
GOVERNOR

2748
01:10:54,684 --> 01:10:55,785
ESPECIALLY KNOWING THE TAX

2749
01:10:55,785 --> 01:10:56,352
REVISION COMMISSION

2750
01:10:56,352 --> 01:10:58,121
IS COMING UP WOULD AB-ABSOLUTELY

2751
01:10:58,121 --> 01:10:59,222
INCLUDE ECONOMIC DATA

2752
01:10:59,222 --> 01:11:01,824
AND EVEN OUR DATA HOPEFULLY

2753
01:11:01,824 --> 01:11:03,426
FOR THAT CONVERSATION

2754
01:11:03,426 --> 01:11:04,594
AND MAYBE THAT WOULD COME

2755
01:11:04,594 --> 01:11:05,795
BACK IN A FORM THAT

2756
01:11:05,795 --> 01:11:07,363
ACTUALLY DOES EXACTLY WHAT

2757
01:11:07,363 --> 01:11:08,164
I THINK.

2758
01:11:08,164 --> 01:11:08,931
I DON'T... I HAVEN'T MET

2759
01:11:08,931 --> 01:11:09,398
A SINGLE LOCAL

2760
01:11:09,398 --> 01:11:10,533
ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT SAYS

2761
01:11:10,533 --> 01:11:11,801
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HAVE

2762
01:11:11,801 --> 01:11:12,368
PROPERTY TAX REFORM.

2763
01:11:12,368 --> 01:11:13,536
I THINK WE ALL HERE

2764
01:11:13,536 --> 01:11:14,237
ALL WANNA SEE

2765
01:11:14,237 --> 01:11:15,605
PROPERTY TAX REFORM.

2766
01:11:15,605 --> 01:11:16,405
I THINK THE QUESTION IS,

2767
01:11:16,405 --> 01:11:18,207
IS WHAT LEVEL OF THAT IS

2768
01:11:18,207 --> 01:11:19,142
TRUE REFORM VERSUS

2769
01:11:19,142 --> 01:11:20,676
ACTUAL DEPLETION

2770
01:11:20,676 --> 01:11:22,211
OF SERVICE.

2771
01:11:22,211 --> 01:11:24,881
SO MY HOPE, AND THIS IS A HOPE,

2772
01:11:24,881 --> 01:11:25,882
YOU'RE RIGHT, IF IT PASSES

2773
01:11:25,882 --> 01:11:26,716
AND IT GOES THROUGH,

2774
01:11:26,716 --> 01:11:27,183
WE'RE GONNA HAVE

2775
01:11:27,183 --> 01:11:27,817
TO FIGURE IT OUT.

2776
01:11:27,817 --> 01:11:29,152
WE'RE GONNA WORK ON FIGURING

2777
01:11:29,152 --> 01:11:29,685
IT OUT.

2778
01:11:29,685 --> 01:11:30,953
MY HOPE IS IF FOR SOME REASON

2779
01:11:30,953 --> 01:11:31,521
IT DOESN'T PASS

2780
01:11:31,521 --> 01:11:32,421
EVEN IF IT COMES BACK

2781
01:11:32,421 --> 01:11:33,356
THAT WE HAVE THAT ABILITY

2782
01:11:33,356 --> 01:11:35,391
TO HAVE THAT REAL GOOD

2783
01:11:35,391 --> 01:11:35,825
CONVERSATION

2784
01:11:35,825 --> 01:11:37,693
TO BRING IN REFORM

2785
01:11:37,693 --> 01:11:38,661
BUT RESPONSIBLY

2786
01:11:38,661 --> 01:11:40,263
AND, YOU KNOW, SO YOUR...

2787
01:11:40,263 --> 01:11:41,564
I-I AGREE WITH YOU.

2788
01:11:41,564 --> 01:11:42,298
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE IT

2789
01:11:42,298 --> 01:11:42,565
OUT THOUGH.

2790
01:11:42,565 --> 01:11:43,733
IT'S A NEW NORMAL.

2791
01:11:43,733 --> 01:11:44,734
I'M NOT AFRAID OF THE NEW

2792
01:11:44,734 --> 01:11:44,901
NORMAL.

2793
01:11:44,901 --> 01:11:46,302
I'M AFRAID OF CHAOS

2794
01:11:46,302 --> 01:11:48,304
WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY

2795
01:11:48,304 --> 01:11:49,305
TO RECOUP FUNDING

2796
01:11:49,305 --> 01:11:50,773
COZ WE DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS

2797
01:11:50,773 --> 01:11:51,507
TO RECOUP FUNDING.

2798
01:11:51,507 --> 01:11:52,809
I MEAN, LIKE THAT'S THE THING

2799
01:11:52,809 --> 01:11:53,676
THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH.

2800
01:11:53,676 --> 01:11:55,378
>> SURE AND JUST-JUST TO MAKE

2801
01:11:55,378 --> 01:11:56,546
SURE WE'RE ALL UPDATED,

2802
01:11:56,546 --> 01:11:58,514
YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY THE LEON

2803
01:11:58,514 --> 01:12:00,483
COUNTY JUDGE, UH, ISSUED THAT

2804
01:12:00,483 --> 01:12:02,752
AND, UM, BASICALLY

2805
01:12:02,752 --> 01:12:05,021
IT'S-IT'S-IT'S FIXABLE SO

2806
01:12:05,021 --> 01:12:06,322
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE

2807
01:12:06,322 --> 01:12:07,657
GOING TO SLOW WALK IT

2808
01:12:07,657 --> 01:12:08,991
TILL THE LAST DAY SUBMIT IT

2809
01:12:08,991 --> 01:12:10,359
AND THAT WAY THERE'S NO CHANCE

2810
01:12:10,359 --> 01:12:11,527
TO CHALLENGE IT AGAIN,

2811
01:12:11,527 --> 01:12:13,029
IT JUST HAS TO HAPPEN.

2812
01:12:13,029 --> 01:12:14,597
SO, I-I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE

2813
01:12:14,597 --> 01:12:15,598
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN,

2814
01:12:15,598 --> 01:12:15,798
SO.

2815
01:12:15,798 --> 01:12:16,933
>> WE'LL HAVE TO SEE.

2816
01:12:16,933 --> 01:12:17,767
IT'S GONNA BE...

2817
01:12:17,767 --> 01:12:18,601
HEY WE'RE NOT...

2818
01:12:18,601 --> 01:12:19,735
THAT'S TOO BIG OF A PAYCHECK.

2819
01:12:19,735 --> 01:12:20,503
THAT'S A BIG...

2820
01:12:20,503 --> 01:12:21,037
THAT'S-THAT'S-THAT'S NOT

2821
01:12:21,037 --> 01:12:21,571
MY WORLD

2822
01:12:21,571 --> 01:12:22,238
BUT IT'LL BE INTERESTING

2823
01:12:22,238 --> 01:12:23,139
TO SEE HOW IT GOES.

2824
01:12:23,139 --> 01:12:25,274
>> TWO DATA CENTERS WILL MAKE UP

2825
01:12:25,274 --> 01:12:26,542
ALL THE REVENUE LOSSES.

2826
01:12:26,542 --> 01:12:27,476
[LAUGHING]

2827
01:12:27,476 --> 01:12:28,477
JUST SAYING.

2828
01:12:28,477 --> 01:12:29,645
>> AND THE OVER-OVER TIME.

2829
01:12:29,645 --> 01:12:30,580
>> THESE ARE DECISIONS

2830
01:12:30,580 --> 01:12:31,280
FOR YOU GUYS.

2831
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:32,715
THE SCHOOL BOARD DOESN'T HAVE

2832
01:12:32,715 --> 01:12:33,616
TO DO THAT.

2833
01:12:33,616 --> 01:12:35,218
>> AND THEN THE DATA CENTER.

2834
01:12:35,218 --> 01:12:36,018
[LAUGHING]

2835
01:12:36,018 --> 01:12:38,454
>> I WAS GONNA SAY YET.

2836
01:12:38,454 --> 01:12:39,355
>> YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE THE

2837
01:12:39,355 --> 01:12:40,289
ONLY ONES WITH THE BAG OF MONEY.

2838
01:12:40,289 --> 01:12:41,524
YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING

2839
01:12:41,524 --> 01:12:42,458
POTHOLES AND PARKS.

2840
01:12:42,458 --> 01:12:43,726
[LAUGHING]

2841
01:12:43,726 --> 01:12:45,328
>> SO EVEN THOUGH THE-THE

2842
01:12:45,328 --> 01:12:46,662
SCHOOLS ARE CARVED OUT,

2843
01:12:46,662 --> 01:12:47,897
WE HAVE SO MANY WRAPAROUND

2844
01:12:47,897 --> 01:12:48,164
SERVICES

2845
01:12:48,164 --> 01:12:49,198
THAT ARE OPERATING

2846
01:12:49,198 --> 01:12:50,233
IN OUR SCHOOLS,

2847
01:12:50,233 --> 01:12:51,234
UM, THAT ARE GOING TO

2848
01:12:51,234 --> 01:12:51,834
BE AT RISK.

2849
01:12:51,834 --> 01:12:53,302
SO THE SCHOOL BOARD

2850
01:12:53,302 --> 01:12:54,437
IS NOT UNAFFECTED.

2851
01:12:54,437 --> 01:12:55,638
UH, CHILDREN'S SERVICES PROVIDES

2852
01:12:55,638 --> 01:12:56,839
HALF OF THE FUNDING

2853
01:12:56,839 --> 01:12:58,674
FOR OUR SCHOOL NURSES, YOU KNOW,

2854
01:12:58,674 --> 01:12:59,542
BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB

2855
01:12:59,542 --> 01:13:00,676
PROVIDES A LOT OF OUR

2856
01:13:00,676 --> 01:13:01,844
BEFORE AND AFTER CARE.

2857
01:13:01,844 --> 01:13:03,546
SO WE ARE NOT UNAFFECTED EVEN

2858
01:13:03,546 --> 01:13:04,714
THOUGH WE'RE CARVED OUT.

2859
01:13:04,714 --> 01:13:07,216
SO-SO NO-NOBODY GOES

2860
01:13:07,216 --> 01:13:08,884
HOME UNHARMED.

2861
01:13:08,884 --> 01:13:10,620
>>  IT'LL BE FUN AND GAMES.

2862
01:13:10,620 --> 01:13:11,854
>> SO, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, WE HAVE

2863
01:13:11,854 --> 01:13:12,722
CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD

2864
01:13:12,722 --> 01:13:14,023
TO AGENDA THIS ITEM FOR

2865
01:13:14,023 --> 01:13:14,523
DISCUSSION AT

2866
01:13:14,523 --> 01:13:15,591
THE OCTOBER 3RD MEETING.

2867
01:13:15,591 --> 01:13:16,425
IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING?

2868
01:13:16,425 --> 01:13:17,226
>> I BELIEVE WE DO.

2869
01:13:17,226 --> 01:13:18,127
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

2870
01:13:18,127 --> 01:13:19,595
>> ALL RIGHT, ANY-ANY-ANY OTHER

2871
01:13:19,595 --> 01:13:20,496
COMMENTS, WE'RE GOOD?

2872
01:13:20,496 --> 01:13:21,931
>> YEAH, ONE LAST, UM...

2873
01:13:21,931 --> 01:13:23,366
TWO LAST THINGS, THE CHAIRWOMAN

2874
01:13:23,366 --> 01:13:24,267
AND I ATTENDED

2875
01:13:24,267 --> 01:13:25,167
THE FLORIDA METROPOLITAN

2876
01:13:25,167 --> 01:13:26,068
PLANNING ORGANIZATION MEETINGS

2877
01:13:26,068 --> 01:13:27,603
IN ORLANDO LAST WEEK

2878
01:13:27,603 --> 01:13:30,006
WHERE FLORIDA'S TURNPIKE CEO,

2879
01:13:30,006 --> 01:13:31,240
NICOLA LIQUORI,

2880
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:32,308
PROVIDED A PRESENTATION

2881
01:13:32,308 --> 01:13:33,376
SUMMARIZING THE TURNPIKE

2882
01:13:33,376 --> 01:13:34,410
EXPANSION EFFORTS AROUND

2883
01:13:34,410 --> 01:13:36,512
THE STATE FOR OVER THE NEXT

2884
01:13:36,512 --> 01:13:37,246
10 YEARS.

2885
01:13:37,246 --> 01:13:38,948
WE MET, UH, MS. LIQUORI BEFORE

2886
01:13:38,948 --> 01:13:39,515
THE PRESENTATION

2887
01:13:39,515 --> 01:13:40,316
AND EXPRESSED OUR APPRECIATION

2888
01:13:40,316 --> 01:13:41,150
FOR THE NEW TURNPIKE

2889
01:13:41,150 --> 01:13:43,119
INTERCHANGE AT MIDWAY ROAD.

2890
01:13:43,119 --> 01:13:44,287
IT'LL START CONSTRUCTION

2891
01:13:44,287 --> 01:13:45,087
NEXT YEAR

2892
01:13:45,087 --> 01:13:45,788
AND WE ADVOCATE

2893
01:13:45,788 --> 01:13:46,489
FOR THE ADVANCEMENT

2894
01:13:46,489 --> 01:13:47,189
OF THE CONSTRUCTION

2895
01:13:47,189 --> 01:13:48,190
OF THE NORTHERN RAMPS.

2896
01:13:48,190 --> 01:13:49,225
>> YES!

2897
01:13:49,225 --> 01:13:50,760
>> FOR THAT, UH, NEW TURNPIKE

2898
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:51,827
INTERCHANGE AS WELL AS

2899
01:13:51,827 --> 01:13:53,829
WIDENING THE TURNPIKE THROUGHOUT

2900
01:13:53,829 --> 01:13:54,864
THE AREA,

2901
01:13:54,864 --> 01:13:56,232
UH, THE MAIN LINE EMPHASIZING

2902
01:13:56,232 --> 01:13:56,799
THE NUMBER

2903
01:13:56,799 --> 01:13:58,267
OF NEW TOLL PAYERS WHO ARE

2904
01:13:58,267 --> 01:13:59,735
COMING TO LIVE IN THE AREA

2905
01:13:59,735 --> 01:14:00,970
AND THE INCREASES

2906
01:14:00,970 --> 01:14:02,238
TO TURNPIKE REVENUES

2907
01:14:02,238 --> 01:14:04,240
TO WHICH THESE NEW TOLL PAYERS

2908
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:04,907
WILL CONTRIBUTE,

2909
01:14:04,907 --> 01:14:06,342
SO IT WAS A GOOD MEETING

2910
01:14:06,342 --> 01:14:07,076
AND SHE WAS,

2911
01:14:07,076 --> 01:14:09,879
UM, UM, VERY RECEPTIVE.

2912
01:14:09,879 --> 01:14:11,981
>> I JUST WANT NORTH ON,

2913
01:14:11,981 --> 01:14:12,715
NORTH OFF.

2914
01:14:12,715 --> 01:14:14,283
>> AND, UH, FINALLY I'D LIKE TO

2915
01:14:14,283 --> 01:14:14,984
THANK THE BOARD

2916
01:14:14,984 --> 01:14:16,485
FOR THEIR CONTINUED SUPPORT BUT

2917
01:14:16,485 --> 01:14:18,587
I ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF

2918
01:14:18,587 --> 01:14:20,222
FOR THEIR DILIGENT EFFORTS

2919
01:14:20,222 --> 01:14:21,490
AND THEIR TREMENDOUS

2920
01:14:21,490 --> 01:14:24,060
ASSISTANCE BECAUSE I, UH...

2921
01:14:24,060 --> 01:14:24,860
THEY PROVIDE TO ME BECAUSE

2922
01:14:24,860 --> 01:14:25,661
I WOULD NOT BE ABLE

2923
01:14:25,661 --> 01:14:26,862
TO SUCCEED WITHOUT THEM.

2924
01:14:26,862 --> 01:14:28,097
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU,

2925
01:14:28,097 --> 01:14:29,699
BOARD AND THANK YOU STAFF.

2926
01:14:29,699 --> 01:14:31,300
>> YES, THANK YOU TO THE STAFF.

2927
01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:32,868
VERY-VERY... ALWAYS WELL

2928
01:14:32,868 --> 01:14:33,402
PREPARED.

2929
01:14:33,402 --> 01:14:36,138
ALL RIGHT, IF THAT IS IT

2930
01:14:36,138 --> 01:14:37,306
MEETING ADJOURNED.

